TwinPlenum3500S
New Member
Is this a genuine mistake? Did he reshell it himself? If he is now aware of the discrepancies, i.e. the big pic of the original car, he has bother.
1966? I dont think so!!
- Thread starter Pilkie
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Willy Eckerslyke
Well-Known Member
speedy said:
My feelings entirely. The thought of informing DVLA or the plod and risking cars like this getting sent to the crusher appals me. Not only for the loss of vehicles, but also for any resultant clamp-down and hassles we'll get when we try to legitimately alter our cars - changing the colour, etc.
The best thing we can do is provide potential buyers with the tools to recognise when something is amiss so that they can make any decisions accordingly. And the best way to do that, is to discuss these issues as we are doing here.
Since joining this forum, I've learnt to recognise Series 1, 1.5 and 2 cars and know what details to look for. Anyone else with an interest can learn the same way. And once we've learnt, we certainly don't need public spirited Rover souls whittling out everything at all dodgy to save us from making a mistake.
Dave3066
Well-Known Member
Well said gents
The boy racer in me kinda likes the modifications and as I said previously someone has spent a lot of time on this car (irrespective of which car it actually is
)
The Rover lover, however, thinks it's hideous.
Wish I could've afforded to buy one when I was 14
Dave
The boy racer in me kinda likes the modifications and as I said previously someone has spent a lot of time on this car (irrespective of which car it actually is
)The Rover lover, however, thinks it's hideous.
speedy said:
Wish I could've afforded to buy one when I was 14
Dave
norsewood
Member
Dave3066 said:
I see where you are coming from Dave, I'm in a quandry over this car - irrespective of it's parentage.
I like the look of the front end with the series 1 grill, later bonnet and the spoiler arrangement. Not overly struck on the underbonnet colouring, wheel colouring or the seat covers. But I can see the purists view of how things should be.
But which one's best? There's only one way to find out........FIGHT! :wink: (with apologies to Mr Hill)
Pilkie
Active Member
THE!!! BIG issue here is,when an unknowing buyer buys it, insures it, and if he has an accident,then the chanced of the insurance being void are almost 100%,and he could also be prosecuted for it.
I have informed the owner via ebay mail about the 2000auto pic and the other anomolies,and the legal consequences of selling such an illegal car!
It should either be returned quickly to its proper identity, or used as spares.
I have informed the owner via ebay mail about the 2000auto pic and the other anomolies,and the legal consequences of selling such an illegal car!
It should either be returned quickly to its proper identity, or used as spares.
TwinPlenum3500S
New Member
webmaster said:
What is the penalty here? You own the damaged car and you own the shell (albeit second hand). Say you are rallying cars, roll one of yours and reshell it into a good one you own. To me not unheard of. Whats the punishment?
The problem being is, is that the bloke who has done this is a mug. An early S1 2200 or whatever, into a S2 V8 --- in reality different cars, then waves it under peoples noses for sale!! People like this make life difficult for everybody through utter stupidity. We all know that P6's rot... you have an old S and find its toast bodily... someone offers you a solid old shell ... bingo. With d**k heads about like this chap, everybody is a loser, bar the bureaucrats.
As for those saying, "its cool", "I played with myself in one at 14", "its a Roer so its ok". Grow up, it looks totally sh*t and the bloke selling it wants to whip it off and hide it!
speedy
Member
TwinPlenum3500S said:
On a public forum mate...you ought to know better. Jesus...and people wonder why young people dont like old cars, in particular the P6?
With an attitude problem like this, the club will wither and die with its members!
I bought my first P6 for £50 aged 14. I saved up car wash money, and borrowed £20 from my brother to buy it. Im proud of that. What did you do??? Open your cheque book and find the best one you could find?
I have repeatedly tried to be an active member on here, and join in with topics i know something about...each time i get shot down for no reason! It really annoys me that everyone can see this forum, and yet here you are slagging of the cars we like??? What would a prospective buyer think if they read this???
That P6 is not the nicest i have seen...not by a long way...but with the parts that are available, and by informing the proper people of the work that has been done...someone could have a nice cheap P6. Im not saying it will be original, because clearly it wont...but is that all that matters to you all???
having just read the previous correspondence isn't it all going off track slightly?
the playing with myself in a rover comment is obviously a joke if you read it (i hope i read it right!)
an amusing rant i thought!
the car looks a bit 'young' looking for me to be seen in but change a couple of things (wheels, seat covers and keep the bonnet shut!) and i'd drive it! i've seen worse!
it may not be a 66' car but if it bothers you then don't buy it!
you have to be careful whatever you buy on ebay.
its something to talk about anyway
j
the playing with myself in a rover comment is obviously a joke if you read it (i hope i read it right!)
an amusing rant i thought!
the car looks a bit 'young' looking for me to be seen in but change a couple of things (wheels, seat covers and keep the bonnet shut!) and i'd drive it! i've seen worse!
it may not be a 66' car but if it bothers you then don't buy it!
you have to be careful whatever you buy on ebay.
its something to talk about anyway
j
josephp6man
New Member
hi,
in your opinion it looks s--t but there are quite a few that like it as it is being bid on. this is why everyone is different, otherwise we would all be driving around in a square box. hope you don't mind chris, but chris is doing mods on steering, suspension, uprated brakes. i am having fuel injection fitted and that is as far as i want to go in altering it, others are fitting 5 speed manuals, four speed autos, bigger engines, the list goes on. this car has appealed to the guy that built it, the same as the alterations others have done. most of the people i talk to don't like the scoops on the NADA, i do and that is all that matters, it is my car and that is that. i agree with speedy.
joseph
in your opinion it looks s--t but there are quite a few that like it as it is being bid on. this is why everyone is different, otherwise we would all be driving around in a square box. hope you don't mind chris, but chris is doing mods on steering, suspension, uprated brakes. i am having fuel injection fitted and that is as far as i want to go in altering it, others are fitting 5 speed manuals, four speed autos, bigger engines, the list goes on. this car has appealed to the guy that built it, the same as the alterations others have done. most of the people i talk to don't like the scoops on the NADA, i do and that is all that matters, it is my car and that is that. i agree with speedy.
joseph
webmaster
New Member
What you "should" do is put the good panels on the solid shell and keep the reg for that, scrapping the old rotten base unit and the reg that goes with it.
It's very difficult, especially with the meccano nature of the P6, to say when a car stops being the original and starts being another car, I guess that's why they have the points system.
I have no problems with the mods, it's not to my taste, but each to their own.
Phil Robson
Well-Known Member
speedy said:
It is unfortunate that you have got this impression, speedy.
I have been a member of a P6 club for about 25 years & have been on this forum many years. I have not experienced anything but helpful comments & certainly find this site a huge & welcome resource. I would encourage you to persevere with your queries & get the most out of P6 ownership. Many of my own posts are from a lower experience level than most on here, but that's what really helps me.
Mad_Dan_Eccles
Member
colnerov said:
I think this car still existed near near Tucson, Arizona as late as last year. There is/was a large Rover graveyard there, which I understand the local authorites wanted to close down.
I was interested in a Mark II P5 Coupe at the time, and the owner mentioned this estate. I didn't pursue this one at the time as the reports I got were that it was really rather rotten and the price being asked was unrealistic and based more on the fact that the car had been featured in various books and magazine aricles than on any real value.
I can't get excited about this - if it sells for £1000 someone has got a reasonable purchase
I think it's legal to put a registration on a car that makes it look older , what you can't do is use a later plate to make it lok younger
If it's a 66 shell someone has done a reasonable job of fitting V8 inner wings. If you don't like it , don't bid on it !.
I think it's legal to put a registration on a car that makes it look older , what you can't do is use a later plate to make it lok younger
If it's a 66 shell someone has done a reasonable job of fitting V8 inner wings. If you don't like it , don't bid on it !.
GrimV8
Active Member
Phil Robson said:
I agree, I'm wary of Forums and lurked for a while here before bothering to post. I only did because it's a cool place compared to lots of other bitchy Forums
I also like the fact that folk here like concours stuff, old nails like I'm using for transport to work at present and the weird and wacky too
If people were only into 100% originality then I doubt Sowens thread
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5288
would have the encourageing comments, 197 replies and 4108 views :shock:
Get involved more Speedy, there's far worse places to be IMO :wink:
I thought this thread was really concern for the innocent buyer getting far more grief than they might bargain for, presuming it's a good car in the first place.
Nothing to say it's not an honest car where someone just kept an old number, transferred it for posterity onto their newer steed and Bob's your uncle :| Maybe the listing could have been better.
I have a customer with a T reg from their old SD1 on a Rover 827, they cried when the SD went to scrap
Pilkie
Active Member
DaveHerns said:
Yeah right!! And pigs can fly as well as pink elephants!!
If someone pays a grand,or whatever price for it they are likely to end up loosing their money,as its a blatant ringer and totally illegal,let alone the insurance will be invalid if its involved in an accident and examined!!
Now if the car was an honest 1970/71 V8 on the documents with his old and loved 1966 cars D reg transferred to it then theres no problem,but as he is trying to sell it as a genuine 1966 car then a fraud is taking place!
Grim V8 said:
Its recorded with the dvla as first registered 1966 and a 3500cc engine,so not the case here!
pilkie said:
Here you go Pilkie and the rest of you....
The One And Only 1966 Rover P6B V8.......
...although this too started out a 4 cylinder....
If you don't recognise it then Rudiger will fill you in on the Details or one of the Drivers Club lot... :wink:
The vehicle details for JXC 822D are:
Date of Liability 01 07 2010
Date of First Registration 29 07 1966
Year of Manufacture 1966
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3520CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour MAROON