3500S badge (3x) + Police spec spoilers

TyroleanRover

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Dear community.

Some have some real beautiful "3500S" badges on which the text is deeper than then badge.
Where do i get them?
mine are just plain stickers, and in a brownish colour, this looks awful to paprika.
I learned one more vocab ;-) They are called "engraved" badges.
And... i got some.

Thank's to you for the help

Further on i would like to buy those police spec air spoilers for the front. Not the big race ones, just the small ones like this:
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Where can i find them?

best regards,
Simon
 
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Hi, The relief or sculptured badges are early ones and the smooth or screen printed ones are the later type.

Spoilers, if you do a search on here someone describes how to make them (I think).

Colin
 
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The sculptured badges as far as I know were only fitted to the U/S NADA 3500s which was automatic, never seen a U/K manual fitted with them from factory.
Clive.
 
@clive P62

Interesting. I learn from day to day.
It is even not easy to find black sticker 3500S badges.

Does anyone has the dimensions of the spoilers.
I could ask a company to make them from aluminum? Shouldn't be that complicated? They don't look twisted, just at the edges...
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Chris Wilson either made or had some made a while back. I guess in fibreglass. Perhaps he has the moulds still?

I'm guessing with a square 8 in front they don't do much...
 
I got some engraved badges,
Thanks for your help guys!

To me, the effect of the spoilers is not that important.
The radiator sits deeper than the fenders, and one can see a lot of the tyres on the front. This gives the P6 a, somehow "lifted" look i think. The square 8 or the spoilers create a visual difference to this.
I like the curved line the spoilers create as a conncection between the radiator and the fenders.
 
this is a most interesting post.
so I ask , what did the spoilers on police cars actually do?
hold the front of the car down at speeds over 120 mph,
Mark Webber has them on his car too...
or just look good effect for the general public consumption?
but on the other hand it makes the rover look like it meant business and to the police
and the publicly machine , that was definitely very r important...
 
Hm... difficult question.
In my opinion a real "downforce" effect could not be achieved because the wing "area" is very little.

I can think of another effect. If you look on the p6 from the front the bumper is sitting quite high, and the offset between the deep sitting radiator and the bumper is quite high.
The air hits, compared to other cars, a bigger area of the tyre tread. Almost like a (real) offroad car (not a SUV). Because of the small tyres, the air does flow around the tyre when the car is driving, this could have a effect on steering feeling during higher speed. I know the steering angle when driving fast is only in the mm area, but i could think has a effect on the steering feeling. What the little spoilers definitly can do is redirect the airflow arround the tyre.
Maybe i am wrong.

I am happy with the feel and behavior of my car at "high" speeds. When i bought it, i drove it home arroun 550km on the highway and felt stable at a avarge speed of 120km/h. Also on a shorter section of the highway where i was in Germany (Austria has no highway connection between the countries of Tyrol and Salzburg) i tested the capacities of the car up to 180 km/h... it was runnig stable.
For me, the spoiler is just for the look.

I also asked this question in the german p6 forum.
A guy named "Karel" built police spoilers on his own,
but i haven't asked him about the effect the make...

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Due to the design of the front valance, at high speed the front of the car tends to lift due to the airflow under the car. These spoilers, while they do not really create any downforce, they simply reduce the amount of air that flows directly under the car, reducing in this way the tendency of the front end to lift.
 
Hi guys,
@nrmoz @PeterZRH

classeparts gave me an answer.
He has actually 2 sets in stock and already sold, but the buyer didn't paid. If he doesn't receive the money until this weekend, they are for sale again. I asked if he could sell them outside of ebay.
He also orderd 8 sets from his glass fibber man, we are in contact and he informs me when they are ready to sell.
If anyone else is looking for some spoilers?
They still forgot to answer the question for the price, but i will tell you as soon as i know.

Simon
 
I notice that the car in the pictures has a mesh grill behind the lower part of the front valance opening.
What type of mesh is used,
It would be a good idea where I live, going out west in the summer one can encounter swarms of locusts (grasshoppers with longer legs).
I had a similar mesh grill fitted to my Holden commodore several years ago , before I ventured to the outback and it proved its worth on more than one occasion.
Peter
 
They do make the car more stable at high speeds (70mph :) ) but more than that, they make it more stable at slower speeds when hit with sidewinds, well that's my experience anyway.



Chris Wilson and I made up 20 sets as we had a fair few people wanting them and put their names down. When we had them made, all of these people backed out. We did eventually sell them and I still have the moulds. The chap who did the fibreglassing is no longer with us, so I would have to find someone else to do that bit.
 
They do make the car more stable at high speeds (70mph :) ) but more than that, they make it more stable at slower speeds when hit with sidewinds, well that's my experience anyway.



Chris Wilson and I made up 20 sets as we had a fair few people wanting them and put their names down. When we had them made, all of these people backed out. We did eventually sell them and I still have the moulds. The chap who did the fibreglassing is no longer with us, so I would have to find someone else to do that bit.

They do make th car look better and finished in that area.
Perhaps when you took names, you could request a deposit, none returnable if canceled.
That way you are not left holding a quantity after paying someone to make them.
They in themselves would have to be very strong , including the mounts, at speed they take the brunt of the wind force , and if not suitably reinforced, could just fold up???
What is your experience with them on your car. Do they ever come loose?
Peter
 
They do make th car look better and finished in that area.
Perhaps when you took names, you could request a deposit, none returnable if canceled.
That way you are not left holding a quantity after paying someone to make them.
They in themselves would have to be very strong , including the mounts, at speed they take the brunt of the wind force , and if not suitably reinforced, could just fold up???
What is your experience with them on your car. Do they ever come loose?
Peter

I ran original Police spoilers on my ex-Police 3500S for several years before the car was scrapped, and never had any problems with them. They're fairly solid, and the modern fibreglass is even more so. They'll easily handle the downforce of a P6 at speed.

As for deposits; it ends up becoming difficult. If you take a deposit, it would have to be by cash or cheque, as if it were done by paypal and the person changed their mind - even if it was non-refundable - then paypal would still refund them. It took a while to sell all the ones we had, despite having names for many prior to them being done.
 
@quattro
I like the look of your car. By the way, it was the picture of your P6 with minilites and spoilers which inspired me to search for some.
Are yours the same size as the original ones, and what was you price for you selfmade spoilers?

"When we had them made, all of these people backed out."
It is really annoying if word doesn't count...

The guy from classepart agreed to sell them "outside" ebay. Is this the right term?
But he didn't gave me a price yet. I guess the same as the ebay ones... around 200€. Not really cheap, but as @ButterFingers wrote, they must be quite solid.
 
Hi all

I thought I had removed the minilites prior to fitting the spoilers? Perhaps not, it was a while ago LOL

We glassed in two bighead fasteners per spoiler The original bigHead for composites | bigHead Bonding Fasteners and then used a couple of smaller fixings as well, so plenty strong enough. I bonded mine on as well though Clive Annable removed them when he applied the paint, so only bolts now.

WANTED... Police spec' front valance spoilers for P6B...

They have been on there for 8 years now, and have been no problem at all.
 
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