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[QUOTE="Mark Tate, post: 357102, member: 5901"True but as these car s are 45 something years old not many youngsters at MOT garages understand these cars basics yes lights brakes and horn ..but common sense if owning one should prevail on these older classic beauties but a basic Mot wouldnt hurt .[/QUOTE]
Problem today with youngsters and MOT's is....if it cannot be done by a computer they don't want to know or can't do it! This one of the reasons I go to have my car (not my Rover yet) tested at a garage that's owned and run by an older guy and his son. He is in his 60's and his son is in his 30's. The Minstrel is going there when she is ready for the MOT. A true enthusiast wouldn't complain if his car had to have an MOT no matter what age it is. I know it can be a pain when do all the work you think it needs to pass and they find something else that may have been overlooked by the owner or mechanic who has done the work on it, but that can happen with any car. It wouldn't hurt for the powers that be to compile a basic MOT for older cars at possibly a fraction of the cost of a normal full MOT. I know not everyone will agree with me on that, but prevention is better than cure.
 
Seeing as I educated my MOT tester about 30 years ago on how to check and test P6s I'll still be taking mine back to him and having it tested. I can't see why they keep on talking about f*cking around with the system. Find a tester who's been in the trade a while, (not some Rumanian that's done a two day course after being a pizza delivery driver back in Rumania) who has some idea what he's looking at, and then TBH if you can't get your car through an MOT in all honesty it must be a pretty poor specimen.

If they get exempted from testing there will be conditions on modifications and use, and DVLA haven't got a clue how to implement their own rules as they are now, so they won't have a clue if things change.
 
harveyp6 said:
Seeing as I educated my MOT tester about 30 years ago on how to check and test P6s I'll still be taking mine back to him and having it tested. I can't see why they keep on talking about f*cking around with the system. Find a tester who's been in the trade a while, (not some Rumanian that's done a two day course after being a pizza delivery driver back in Rumania) who has some idea what he's looking at, and then TBH if you can't get your car through an MOT in all honesty it must be a pretty poor specimen.

If they get exempted from testing there will be conditions on modifications and use, and DVLA haven't got a clue how to implement their own rules as they are now, so they won't have a clue if things change.
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Here here!
 
just done the survey.

I did 180miles last year in my P5, the metal still corrodes, lights fail and fluids leak. I regulary check all my cars but if you ever have any thoughts about not testing a car remember the De Dion elbows that have failed. One went on me but others have lost their life.

£50 is a small price for your saftey along with everyone else on the road. I admit that not all testers know every cars flaws but then you should consider this when choosing an MoT testing station.

Colin
 
We charge £40 but long term customers with several cars pay £27.
If your too cheap people think you're going to fail to get extra work! Being too cheap doesn't get you any more work.
Places like halfords etc may be cheaper but if car fails on minor items like bulbs/ blades will charge for a retest.
We don't.☺
Clive.
 
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i have given info etc on the questionaire . there are many aspects to it all. apart from joe soap in street not being able to test breaks and steering joints correctly .be aware of corrosion on land structures and at what point it becomes unsafe etc . ( yes I wanted MOT but a different one for historic/classic cars so they don't need to meet modern criteria as 99.9% would fail probably) there is a section that run a so called class car but have installed high performance engines etc and this ought to have a category or test of its own for 'modified cars'. the insurance companies will actually be the key drivers here as if they won't insure such cars? insist on current MOT etc we have issues .risk of cars being used without insurance? tests? . luckily there are only a small number of young drivers whom buy an old classic and use it for cheap driving as costs for a modern car are prohibitive for many. ( this will add to classic car crashes etc and drive up ALL our insurances ) though hopefully the inexperienced youths will not try and keep up with modern traffic and ALLOW for poor braking etc. though we were all young once and likely as bad as todays crop of boy racers.
before you judge me .. driving since 1968 ( full license) No endorsements. Fines. accidents etc .. though I do not consider myself a Good driver! however I digress.
it would seem to me we have several aspects we ought to address. standard vehicles ( no mods) and those, that cannot get replacement parts and have to have upgraded to modern compatible components .Those that have been heavily modified or even where spares are available but have used higher end stuff ( engines. brakes ) and modern cars with standard MOT tests.
nothing wrong with having some things changed or upgraded e.g. : power steering . better brakes. better bushes .shocks . even gearboxes . However we start to enter a different realm when we tamper with things such as swapping carbs for Fuel injection. multi carbs .bigger size CC , lowered suspension etc this ought to have a name or category of its own. Much like we have 'retro' cars and 'custom' cars all with high following but non standard. There needs to be room for all to use .modify, enjoy and drive etc but safety is a MUST. Though I trained mechanically as an apprentice and upgraded to a mech/elec ( electrical) and have welded . sprayed , serviced etc and have above average DIY skills in many areas. I would want my car TESTED . both to satisfy my any work I had carried out was both safe and to a competent level and to give reassurance to others . Bear in mind even the most skilled mechanic can make mistakes ! insurance companies ought to be driving force here. a simple 2 band system a)= satisfies MOT standard and has been tested.b) is not legally required to have MOT and owner /driver has declined to have one done! if w have a two tier costs reflecting this? . Anyway lets see how things pan out .
 
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Well like it or not if (and that's a big IF) I've read the government response to this consultation correctly all cars registered over 40 years ago will be MOT exempt from 20th May 2018. Over 2000 private individuals responded and the split was approx 900+ for a change and 1100+ against. It seems the Ayes have it and we can, if we choose, be a little better off next year.
 
Mine still needs one, which to be honest makes no difference to me as I would definately have one anyway.

Richard
 
quattro said:
Mine still needs one, which to be honest makes no difference to me as I would definately have one anyway.
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Me too, but, there was talk before the consultation was published that if the exemption came in that all exempt cars will be removed from the system so you won't be able to have a test if you want one if the car is flagged up as 40 years old or over, all you could do is have a roadworthiness test instead of an actual MOT. Time will tell, but hopefully that's not the case.
 
harveyp6 said:
Me too, but, there was talk before the consultation was published that if the exemption came in that all exempt cars will be removed from the system so you won't be able to have a test if you want one if the car is flagged up as 40 years old or over, all you could do is have a roadworthiness test instead of an actual MOT. Time will tell, but hopefully that's not the case.
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You can still opt to have your car MOT tested so they must be keeping all cars on the system.

I am happy with the outcome, I will MOT all my cars regardless. I am also relieved that common sense has prevailed and they have recognised that there is a huge industry in Britain customising and modifying cars. This industry supports thousands of families and to be draconian and sweep it all aside would be tragic.

I don't see why they wanted to drop the MOT in the first place, but this outcome is better than I expected.
 
cobraboy said:
You can still opt to have your car MOT tested so they must be keeping all cars on the system.
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That's good.

cobraboy said:
I don't see why they wanted to drop the MOT in the first place, but this outcome is better than I expected.
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I can't understand it either, more cars needing MOTs mean more money for the government I would have thought. Maybe the money they are losing is better than all the complaints they get about dumbsh*t testers failing classics for having play in the front wheel bearings.... (Amongst other things....)
 
Well who knows. It does appear that there may be someone there who actually has some common sense, but don't worry the scoundrel will soon be found out and gotten rid of.
 
I am sure there's something in the legislation that restricts the mileage of classic cars that don't need an MOT. Just a sneaky way of controlling the usage of our vehicles.
 
I hope not, but I wouldn't put it past them to sneak that in. It's not that I don't trust politicians, it's just that.... erm... I really don't know how to finish that sentence.

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quattro said:
I hope not, but I wouldn't put it past them to sneak that in. It's not that I don't trust politicians, it's just that.... erm... I really don't know how to finish that sentence.

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It was ruled out in the conclusion documents.
 
That's interesting guys. Last week, I booked Hazel in for her MOT this coming Tuesday - which is now not required by law! - I'll still have it done though.
Another point worth considering is that an MOT 'officially' gives a car a roadworthiness certificate on that day. If you had an accident resulting from a failure on your car, would a recent MOT on balance improve your position?
 
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