JR Wadhams interior retrim

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PeterZRH

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Well like most of you I've used these guys before and I know their products are very good (10 out of 10 for their bump stop mountings). However their website is a relic from the late 1990s and has no pictures. Has anyone bought replacement (remanufactured) trim from them and is willing to post some pictures?

Some of the P5 boys have posted about their carpet sets and they look really good.

I'm thinking particularly a recovered seat and door panels. £380 for a complete leather seat doesn't seem so bad, nor does £60 for a door trim.

Thanks
 
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Using one supplier over another is personal choice.. just do your homework.
 
I thought negative comments about suppliers were taboo on this forum.

Over the years, I have found the attitude of the proprietor of JRW to be increasingly understandable - a lot of Rover owners are tossers - people who haven't got a clue about their cars or scoundrels - dealers in disguise, posing as enthusiasts.

The quality of JRW parts are mostly excellent and no classic Rover is complete without a Wadhams receipt in its service history.
 
Following on from Chris's comments, I have dealt with Wadhams a couple of times and I <censored> :shock:
 
Well, I've received some pictures and I can say on first inspection the door panels look very good add to that my previous experience with the bump stops which for 20 odd pounds a piece were excellent.

Now the seat covers (in buckskin) look extremely nice. However the leather is clearly in the modern vogue and looks much softer than the the stuff in our cars and has a "pebble" like grain (like 1990s Jags). Is anything like the thick, fairly smooth "natural" leather still available? It's interesting because when I dismantled the seats it's very obvious that the quality of the leather varied (a lot). The new stuff is processed tot he point of not looking like it came from a cow at all (indeed in the US, makers like VW have switched back to very high quality vinyl as a premium covering).

Other than that I've ordered mechanical bits from Wins and have received nothing but excellent (and extraordinarily speedy with very reasonable postage) service from Geoff.

Still waiting on my first negative supplier experience as a Rover owner. Had plenty in the past with other British car specialists (who will remain nameless).

Over the years, I have found the attitude of the proprietor of JRW to be increasingly understandable - a lot of Rover owners are tossers - people who haven't got a clue about their cars or scoundrels - dealers in disguise, posing as enthusiasts.
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I think you should perhaps qualify that statement. Not every owner is going to be an expert and it is all part of the game as a specialist supplier to also give advice. When I had my first car, there weren't such forums as this (indeed no internet) and it was bloody hard as a broke kid keeping a fairly complicated old motor going (oh how I longed for a MKII escort beam axle and drum brakes...). If this is really so hard then perhaps it isn't the right business to be in.
 
Negative supplier comments are supposed to be suppressed yes. This is just to avoid slanging matches between suppliers and the forum in general and to prevent me from getting grief as the guy that hosts it. Everyone has experiences and this place is all about sharing that however.

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Chris has changed his post at my request

Thanks,
 
Not that I want to totally divert the topic of this thread, but I feel I must come to the defence of J R Wadhams, without whom my restoration would have been even more difficult! Especially after the recent sad loss of a couple of other P6 part suppliers, which has reduced the number of companies who specialise in these cars to not really more than a handful.
They're not the cheapest, and in the past I've had an issue or two which I won't go into here and now, but all in all I'm grateful for their help.
I don't want to come across as a sycophant either though!
Peter, do keep us posted on what direction you take regarding your seat re-covering. At some point I hope I'll be able to afford to refurbish my flat pleat black leather interior. I have the same reservations regarding leather that doesn't look the same as the original stuff. I saw a German car just the other year in which the front seats had been re-trimmed, and they looked greyer than the back, and entirely different in finish, or patina.
 
I can't help think we would be in a much poorer position if company's like Wadhams didn't invest significantly in stocking and re-manufacturing parts for the P6, repair panels for example. I do agree with the point about the website though, it is not at all clear sometimes what exactly you are buying. Parts I have ordered in the past, I'm thinking diff mounting bushes for example, have turned up and bear only a passing resemblance to the existing part on my car. Getting these bushes to fit properly involved quite a bit of unexpected Engineering. Of course the reason this happens is because it is not cost effective to produce different versions of parts that have change throughout the production life of the car. However it would be nice to know what your in for BEFORE buying the parts.
 
Sorry Peter cannot help on the re-trim, however I do have strong views on supplier feedback. The reason this excellent forum is so useful to all of us is that it keeps us informed in all aspects of the car that we are interested in. This can take many different forms but an important and can be a very costly one is suppliers.
I have always passed onto others when good service is given in fact Wins helped me greatly last week after the brake light switch decided to pack up while it was being MOT'd on the Friday. Geoff at Wins posted a replacement which arrived on Saturday morning ready for the re-test the same day. Now in this instance I know that if I need parts quickly then he is the man to go to. However how would we know who to avoid unless we took experiences from a number of people or do we just pay our money and hope for the best.
Regards
Alan
 
In my communications with them they did inform me that the website is due a big update complete with pictures.
 
Hi i would be very keen to see some pictures of wadhams retrims as i would like to have mine redone.
Im not really interested in if its same as orginal as thats not my thing.
But the finish and quality i would like any feed back on.
I also think we should support any supplier as we need them to keep remaking the parts.
I must add that Wadhams parts are very good quality.
regards
Marcus
 
It May be of interest, when I restored my 2.2 a few year s ago I purchaced a complete carpet set from Wadhams and the quality was fantastic. To put it into contex I am starting work on a 1964 S type Jag and I bought some carpet from Aldridge trimmers and the quality is no where as good as the Rover carpet from Wadhams.

John
 
They have just updated their website. It now has lots of photos.

I bought carpet from them some years ago, and it is a very good match to the original. It was much better than carpet which I had bought in Australia some years earlier.

They are a little pricey on some things, but they make parts themselves, and I would rather pay extra for a part made in the UK, that fits well, and is good for its purpose, rather than parts made in lower cost countries, that do not fit well, especially when I am having them shipped overseas to me.

James.
 
bit of the subject but, the Rover P6 2000 1972-- would this model have all leather seats, as mine, while having leather fronts, the sides and back are some sort of leatherette, which makes the repair of small holes a bit difficult, do these magic repair solutions, suit both of these materials?
regards
Brian :roll: :roll:
 
BSKPLoft100 said:
bit of the subject but, the Rover P6 2000 1972-- would this model have all leather seats, as mine, while having leather fronts, the sides and back are some sort of leatherette, which makes the repair of small holes a bit difficult, do these magic repair solutions, suit both of these materials?
regards
Brian :roll: :roll:
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The original seats are only leather 'faced', with the sides & back being a vinyl leather-lookalike.
 
interesting comments. cant comment on trim as so far not thought about replacing any but front door cards and drivers seat will need a refurb in couple of years time. sadly not leather but cloth and not seen anybody offering what is fitted to my old rover '74 so far online. will later take a bit of time to try and source any classic/historic car trim dealers as would prefer keeping it all matching. though reality often becomes uneconomic and a full seat replacement may be needed. at that point I would simply look for seat that actually 'fit' rather than trying to keep originality.
 
Well, the one thing that really gets my goat is the inability to express a truthful opinion of a supplier on a forum.
What good is going to come of only allowing glowing, smoke up the *ss reports of service received if the genuine tales of terrible service are deleted ?
Already here we have had one chap had a request to modify his post.
Now I know we do not need the type of rant that can be all too common on other sites, but poor service needs to be addressed and what better place to warn others than on a forum ?
Granted the provider and recipient should always try to work out a compromise before going online, but if no such deal is forthcoming surely warning notices to benefit other members should be allowed ?
I have used JRW and WINS, both so far have delivered satisfactory goods on time, so I have no axe to grind.
 
cobraboy said:
Well, the one thing that really gets my goat is the inability to express a truthful opinion of a supplier on a forum.
What good is going to come of only allowing glowing, smoke up the *ss reports of service received if the genuine tales of terrible service are deleted ?
Already here we have had one chap had a request to modify his post.
Now I know we do not need the type of rant that can be all too common on other sites, but poor service needs to be addressed and what better place to warn others than on a forum ?
Granted the provider and recipient should always try to work out a compromise before going online, but if no such deal is forthcoming surely warning notices to benefit other members should be allowed ?
I have used JRW and WINS, both so far have delivered satisfactory goods on time, so I have no axe to grind.
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^^^ WHS
 
hi there,
My 2 bobs worth..(20 cents)
I have been dealing with Wins and Geoff the owner and have found their service 10/10. I email Geoff with my request or queries and he replies very quickly via email and the deal is done.
There website is easy to negotiate, but alas without pictures
Jrw is usually the more expensive but the quality is always very good, I think that we are very lucky to have these two company's at our service, without them our cars would be doomed to the scrap heap.
When I first started restoring my first vehicle, a 1952 series one land rover, back in the early eighty's, to get parts from England took about 10 weeks turnaround, letter to UK, return letter from UK, another letter and a cheque, time for cheque to clear, then the parts arrive.
Sometimes this all took 3 months or more , just for parts. Today email has made the world a better and smaller place for us old and young car enthusiasts...:D

Furthermore, without this forum, I would be lost, this is like an ongoing workshop manual with replies..........:)


Peter
 
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I will put my 20 cents in too, Wins (Geoff) has given me fast excellent service and always replies promptly to emails and I'm in New Zealand.
So easy.
 
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