odd interior

Well my car has app't with the upholstery shop for a complete redo of the interior next week. Definitely won't be the box pleat due to unobtanium and if the buckskin leather comes out looking well I won't decry originality...!;)
 
Me tinks he has a blarney stone on the roof, but the reinforcing is giving way , black gaffer tape is not working.
me tinks we need subtitles as well, my hearing aids dont have a translator built in...glad he likes his ole p6, driving to work every day must be a joy with so many admirers driving in the opposite direction.. :rolleyes: me tinks
he is obliviously experiencing what we all do when behind the wheel of a Rover, but a tad more vocal, just keep your eyes on the road Greg..
 
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Brilliant. What a character. Just hope I don’t run into him at a car show anywhere unless I’ve got about three days to spare . . .
Blarney Stone indeed!
 
Greg Casey is a legend for his 'enthusiastic' videos on the Rover P6 Club's Facebook page.
His car is a re import, (I think from Australia) and they may have trimmed their Wabasto roofs differently down under!

Well worth watching his other rover videos (with the sound down low ) if you fancy a smile!
 
Well my car has app't with the upholstery shop for a complete redo of the interior next week. Definitely won't be the box pleat due to unobtanium and if the buckskin leather comes out looking well I won't decry originality...!;)

Boxpleat can be done as several have done just this. There was a stunning red interior done in this pattern - I'll see if I can find the pics. Basically it's a pleat in the leather filled with a foam fillet but apparently the trimmer utterly hated doing it.

More than this, the quality of work varies massively from what I've seen and the weird thing is I've seen poor examples of P6 work with companies who otherwise do a great job on other cars (I'll PM you a link if you like to see what I mean). If you check various examples, some either don't quite seem to get the piping right or at the lower part of the backrest it looks "baggy" or the line of the seat back isn't very straight.

I'm desperately trying to find the person who did this in the picture the fit an finish is superior to anything I've seen elsewhere even if the colour is hopelessly wrong.
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Fit is indeed nice (something difficult to achieve with P6 seats) but the pleats are sadly not correct.
Original P6 flat pleats were constucted from leather strips sewn together. In this case there is just a single large piece with added stiches to make them look like "pleats".
I know, the front seat bases in my car were remade like this too. :(
 
Yes, I spotted that. however if I were to do this, I'd go the "non-original" route. From experience the added 2-3 metres of stitched seem merely adds more points of failure where the stitching comes undone. Does it affect comfort? The panel is also perforated like some US (?) spec models.

But there is something about the complex shape of the back-rest that many trimmers can't seem to get right. Look at the lower part on the side bolsters on many you'll see the leather won't sit flat on the foam like it does in the picture above. I'll see if I can dig out some pictures.

Oddly the colour seems to match the interior door handle perfectly which isn't what you want! Surprising how different using the same material all over looks rather than just the leather seat-facings. Mind you even Jaguar used vinyl on the sides...
 
Regarding the original vs fake pleating, i am not sure about comfort, but the original looks to me far more of quality work than the fake pleating. Also failure is affecting mostly neglected interiors.
Rover trimmers used sewed in wide strips of fabric that were pulled and glued to the frame in order to shape the complex back rests. Without this technique, i cannot see how the seat cover would stay in place.
I wouldn't regard a 60's Jaguar as a benchmark for quality interiors. Vanden Plas on the other hand used leather all around the seats until about 1967, and only on facings afterwards.
 
Not really, Jaguar notably cheapened out their cars in the 1960s, certainly by the time of the 240, 340, 420 and 420G. In fact short of Rolls Royce and boutique manufacturers I can't think of any Brits who used full leather by the 1970s. I don't generally regard it as an issue anyway. I'm a bit of a heretic in that I don't actually like leather that much. I'd take nylon boxpleat in excellent condition as easily the most comfortable. Probably puts me in a minority of 1.
 
Not really, Jaguar notably cheapened out their cars in the 1960s, certainly by the time of the 240, 340, 420 and 420G. In fact short of Rolls Royce and boutique manufacturers I can't think of any Brits who used full leather by the 1970s. I don't generally regard it as an issue anyway. I'm a bit of a heretic in that I don't actually like leather that much. I'd take nylon boxpleat in excellent condition as easily the most comfortable. Probably puts me in a minority of 1.

Youre not unique, just quirky.
I ordered vinyl upholstery from the factory from new in stead of leather. Its still in immaculate condition after 45yrs .
I was talked into it by the salesman .
I sweated on that decision at the time.
 
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Interesting about the car being a re-import.

Perhaps it was CKD spec, the fabric does look correct for a p6 just fitted differently and the headrests are cloth trimmed.
 
If it's of any help, YouTube does have a feature that will put up subtitles for you - it's on the settings menu ;)

thanks for the hint..
I tried that and some of the words were not translated correctly because of the accent, it was quite funny in parts due to the miss translation, still an amazing fellow and his enthusiasm is boundless.. :rolleyes:
Peter
 
Interesting about the car being a re-import.

Perhaps it was CKD spec, the fabric does look correct for a p6 just fitted differently and the headrests are cloth trimmed.
I do love Craig's videos....
There is one were he explains the story behind the car
 
thanks for the hint..
I tried that and some of the words were not translated correctly because of the accent, it was quite funny in parts due to the miss translation, still an amazing fellow and his enthusiasm is boundless.. :rolleyes:
Peter
There are some utterly epic mis-translations with that feature - the more regional and stronger the accent is the funnier the sub titles become.
 
nice looking car. note as normal the engine compartment ha been sprayed gloss black. seen this at NEC shows too. though my understanding was the cars were all originally sprayed 'satin black' and not gloss.
assume originality comes second as it looks better when shiny. though wonder if museum show cars would bother as we wont see cars with bonnets open anyway. still like many things .shiny and sparkly does look more attractive so would expect any car rebuilt to now have shiny too. sadly mines still on original paint and many other original bits too. like anti roll bar. springs .
 
nice looking car. note as normal the engine compartment ha been sprayed gloss black. seen this at NEC shows too. though my understanding was the cars were all originally sprayed 'satin black' and not gloss.
assume originality comes second as it looks better when shiny. though wonder if museum show cars would bother as we wont see cars with bonnets open anyway. still like many things .shiny and sparkly does look more attractive so would expect any car rebuilt to now have shiny too. sadly mines still on original paint and many other original bits too. like anti roll bar. springs .


My NZ car has shiny black in the engine compartment and it is definitely original from the Nelson factory
 
This car was UK built and taken to Western Australia so it must have been re-trimmed when it was changed from white to red. Only automatics were built at Nelson for the Australasian market.
 
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