Johnny E
Member
Found this on t'internet:
http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/csc-features/rover-p6-reviving-britains-baby-buick
http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/csc-features/rover-p6-reviving-britains-baby-buick
Talago in Classic & Sportscar
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squizzy
Member
Members of the P6 Rover Owners Club have the benefit of reading about the Talago and its true life story. The October 2014 P6 News contains an update article of the recent changes to the front end of the Talago to bring it back to how it originally looked. You can also come as see the Talago and its documentation that proves what it is, at the NEC Classic Motor Show 14th-16th November.
The Classic & Sports Car article is very old news, but unless people are following the articles in P6 News, they wouldn't know any difference.
Regards Deborah Stanley
P6 Rover Owners Club www.p6roc.com
The Classic & Sports Car article is very old news, but unless people are following the articles in P6 News, they wouldn't know any difference.
Regards Deborah Stanley
P6 Rover Owners Club www.p6roc.com
Dave3066
Well-Known Member
squizzy said:
...and that would require membership of your club. I hope you'll be writing to the editors of C&SC to advise them of these changes so that they can update they're article. We're all part of the same community here and we'd love to hear an update on this car
Dave
squizzy
Member
It does state on the article that it was originally produced in 2010 and the new owner Richard Lezer bought it in 2011.
In many cases it is a waste of time submitting articles to some of the major magazines, as they totally mix it up and add data that is totally wrong. I've had several arguments with some editors - on one test report they were adamant that a V8 does 0-60 in 26 seconds - what with a snail driving behind the steering wheel! Even though I stated that I had some original test reports that belonged to Peter Wilks, the male editor was still up his own backside and spoke to me like rubbish. The P6ROC no longer advertises in that particular magazine as we don't wish to put our name beside false information. One recent magazine had a P6 report that stated a P6 2000 had a top speed of 11mph and 23mpg. We all know we can get more out of a V8 than 23mpg.
When I've finished compiling past articles from the collection of P6 News they will be able to view on our website in the 'P6 News Index' that I'm just constructing.
There are many benefits of being a member of the P6ROC not just for reading articles in P6 News - although as with anything in life, you get what you pay for.
I also construct graphics on our display boards for the NEC Show which includes enlarged articles from past P6 News magazines. If anyone is coming to the NEC please feel free to enjoy reading the display boards.
As a preview before the Talago appears at the NEC in November, below is an original photograph and how the Talago looks now with the reconstructed front end.
Regards -Deborah Stanley
In many cases it is a waste of time submitting articles to some of the major magazines, as they totally mix it up and add data that is totally wrong. I've had several arguments with some editors - on one test report they were adamant that a V8 does 0-60 in 26 seconds - what with a snail driving behind the steering wheel! Even though I stated that I had some original test reports that belonged to Peter Wilks, the male editor was still up his own backside and spoke to me like rubbish. The P6ROC no longer advertises in that particular magazine as we don't wish to put our name beside false information. One recent magazine had a P6 report that stated a P6 2000 had a top speed of 11mph and 23mpg. We all know we can get more out of a V8 than 23mpg.
When I've finished compiling past articles from the collection of P6 News they will be able to view on our website in the 'P6 News Index' that I'm just constructing.
There are many benefits of being a member of the P6ROC not just for reading articles in P6 News - although as with anything in life, you get what you pay for.
I also construct graphics on our display boards for the NEC Show which includes enlarged articles from past P6 News magazines. If anyone is coming to the NEC please feel free to enjoy reading the display boards.
As a preview before the Talago appears at the NEC in November, below is an original photograph and how the Talago looks now with the reconstructed front end.
Regards -Deborah Stanley
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RedBarchetta
Member
Had this been one of the prototypes shown in the black and white photos, I might have been impressed. Just looks like a Three Thousand Five with wire wheels, a manual box and a fancy badge to me?
chrisw
Well-Known Member
RedBarchetta said:
That's because it is.
It was originally registered VXC211F before a Rover employee swapped the number plates from the original Talago 16DYF onto it. VXC211F (425-00019-A) was one of the first production V8s, built in 1968. The gearbox is a standard 'S' box from the mid-70s. The Talago badges are reproductions.
The current owner has now grafted a rather dodgy sharkstooth grille onto the front of the V8 valance.
But it's his pride and joy, and he keeps it roadworthy. I can't complain about that.
now I am pretty much a rover virgin as mine is my first P6 and I don't see too many similarities between the 2 pictures, bumper and front valance are similar but wrong angle, bonnet different, grill different, saying that with over 40k in it surely in the flesh it must be a stunning car that you can eat your dinner off.
pete
pete
sorry but not original--its like the 50 year old axe--completely original apart from 5 handles and 2 heads--mine is more original than that-and its 75% 1965 series 1 2000 no not sc-didn't have sc until 1966 when TC came out-so 40+k for a fake ---no brainer in my opinion--mines got a buick and total cost is about 4k-mainly engine work. What amazes me is Talago was only ever a 2000 engine----fact
NickDunning
Active Member
An small additional piece of info on the whole saga of 16DYF came to light a couple of weeks ago - this from Richard Fishwick's secretary, and also Denis Chick (ex-Rover Engineering):
She remembers when she started at the company in the early 1970's that the car was either Arden Green or a very similar colour. It was usually parked outside his house. She was actually looking at an Arden Green car I was driving at the time, and told me it was the same colour.
This is, probably, the original car's last incarnation before Richard Fishwick purchased the 2000 outright from Rover in 1974, and the DYF plates went on VXC211F (a Three Thousand Five, and a highly interesting car in itself). We do have copies of a letter from Mr. Fishwick from 1986 where he confirms the original four cylinder car was broken up in 1974 and 'rebuilt' onto a V8 (VXC211F).
The original car was never a V8 whilst owned by the Rover Company. This from Lyn Thomas (Rover Engineering 1959-2002), who actually had the original car used at his wedding in 1965. Richard Fishwick drove his bride, Marion, to the ceremony in it.
Cheers
Nick
She remembers when she started at the company in the early 1970's that the car was either Arden Green or a very similar colour. It was usually parked outside his house. She was actually looking at an Arden Green car I was driving at the time, and told me it was the same colour.
This is, probably, the original car's last incarnation before Richard Fishwick purchased the 2000 outright from Rover in 1974, and the DYF plates went on VXC211F (a Three Thousand Five, and a highly interesting car in itself). We do have copies of a letter from Mr. Fishwick from 1986 where he confirms the original four cylinder car was broken up in 1974 and 'rebuilt' onto a V8 (VXC211F).
The original car was never a V8 whilst owned by the Rover Company. This from Lyn Thomas (Rover Engineering 1959-2002), who actually had the original car used at his wedding in 1965. Richard Fishwick drove his bride, Marion, to the ceremony in it.
Cheers
Nick
NickDunning
Active Member
Couple of updates:
Now with a better photo of the original logbook from Richard's website - the car was colour changed on the log book to 'dark green' and the engine changed to another pre-production four cylinder engine in July 1969. It appears a fresh set of panels were procured from production.
So it appears the original car was green from 1969 until 1974 when the identity was changed to the V8.
Lyn Thomas has said that 16DYF never had the 'cowhorn' bumpers.
Either 16DYF or 15DYF was the first car to have what we would know as standard production (full length) front bumpers.
Cheers folks
Nick
Now with a better photo of the original logbook from Richard's website - the car was colour changed on the log book to 'dark green' and the engine changed to another pre-production four cylinder engine in July 1969. It appears a fresh set of panels were procured from production.
So it appears the original car was green from 1969 until 1974 when the identity was changed to the V8.
Lyn Thomas has said that 16DYF never had the 'cowhorn' bumpers.
Either 16DYF or 15DYF was the first car to have what we would know as standard production (full length) front bumpers.
Cheers folks
Nick
marcus/rosie
New Member
It does look mean at the front, i like the look. Nice car and at least the owner is enjoying it which is all that matters.
marcus
marcus