Jensen Wheels

chrisyork

Active Member
Salutory story of the week I'm afraid. Having assiduously read the forum and taken advice from all comers, I finally plumped for a set of Interceptor III alloys. Much wonga later they look glorious with polished highlights against an old gold background. 205/65 15 tyres to give the right rolling diameter and its time to fit them (new alloy wheel nuts etc etc).

The tyre size is no problem provided that the wheel lies centrally within the rear "mudguard" formed by the boot sides and the rear extension of the D post.

But of course the offset is not correct and they don't!

I reckon they need to go into the centre of the car by about 25mm (thats an inch to the elderly and illiterate like me).

By skimming the back face of the wheel, re-sleeving the stud holes and using a different wheel nut I reckon you could win at maximum 12mm. Other tricks considered were shortening the de dion tube and the half shafts to pull the hubs and trailing arms in (rejected as too radical for a show quality car - but feasible for a pure performance orientated daily user), skimming the face of the hubs (rejected as impractical from an engineering perspective and generating too many unknowns in the strength and durability field) and performing surgery on the offending portion of D post (rejected as introducing too many problems with mounting the rear door rubber seal if taken far enough to be effective).

I spoke to the chap who is selling the silver car currently on e bay that is pictured wearing these wheels and it transpires he is running 205/50's, which of course takes the rolling radius down far enough to mitigate the problem.

Anybody out there got any other stunts to solve this problem before the Jensen wheels go back on e bay and I start again with SD1 Vitesse wheels?

Depressed of Bristol
Chris York
 
sorry to hear this tale Chris. I run 205/50 on my Vitesse rims, I find the rolling radius issue not a problem, compared to the looks and feel that is. I know when I'm driving it's ~6% overreading. Of course the low speed acceleration is improved, yet how many of us take our P6s above 90mph anyway? All my old motors have speedometers with dancing hands allovertheplace :laugh: so where does Plod start when he wants a word about my speedo accuracy? The MOT pass was no problem, nor was my insurance firm.
The upside is the superb cornering and braking grip compared to the standard 185/80/14 tyres. The downside is yes it trams more and the odd speed hump can annoy, but the supple P6 suspension masks the harder ride MUCH better than my late-model Alfa could ever wish for, running same profile...

Why not put a set of (even part-worn as a tester) 205/50 and see what you think before you decide to part with them?

(I suppose this reply is a bit convoluted and err-ing on the no-no for an engineer, but I want to cheer you up :) )

Jason
 
It must be possible as Allen Myers ran Interceptor alloys on his P6 Estate

One question -is the 4 cylinder car rear suspension narrower ? If so the shorter driveshafts might pull the hubs in a bit ? Something to ponder over
Dave
 
Dont V8s have different trailing arms on the back to allow for wider tyres? Im sure I've read that somewhere.

Paprika-what Alfa do you have, and how do the tyres last on it?

Mat
 
Dear Mat

Many thanks for the thought.

The different trailing arms are in fact the upper ones running back from the top of the de dion elbow to the side panels of the boot. On the 3500 these have a crank in them to keep them away from the tyre whereas 4 cyl ones are straight.

These aren't a problem in this case - the wheels are too far out, not too far in. My own measurements suggest that the critical area on the inboard side is in any case the very bottom of the boot side wall where it turns into the boot floor in front of the axle. No doubt with straight 4 cyl arms it would be a different story.

Chris
 
Hello everyopne. Seems I now have a set of Jensen alloys, and from this discussion it seems I can put 205/50/15 tires on them and aside from some speedo problems I will be all set. True? Also, can someone doing this let me know if I can just use standard Jensen lug nuts on my 3500S studs? Thanks.

George
 
That seems to be the case, BUT I've not actually seen the car I spoke of from e bay. My advice would be to follow Paprika's suggestion and try them with a set of near scrap tyres first to make sure. Given the speedo over-reading you'll also have lowered the overall gearing so you'll get brisk acceleration, fussy high revs cruising and worsened fuel consumption to go with it.

Why not go for the lump hammer route and see if you can generate enough space for full size tyres?

Yes, standard Jensen wheel nuts work ok.

Regards

Chris
 
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