CompressionRate from 9.25 to 10.5

Jorgenson

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Good evening together.
We have an original P6 V8 engine from '74, this has a CR of 9.25.
We want to bring the to 10.5 (devour heads) .
Did any of you good data with which we can calculate it?

LG Jorgen
 
Hi,

To change the compression ratio you'd change the pistons - they have a different dish for each compression ratio.

10.5:1 engines dont like normal unleaded fuel so i'm guessing you intend to run on super?

Rich
 
A skim off the heads would up the compression, but would also require a calculation. My advice (which can be ignored if you like :D ) would be to avoid going too high, I'm tempted to try and reduce mine a bit so it can run on normal petrol and not be quite so sensitive to timing and mixture
 
Skimming the heads is not impossible, but will cause problems with the pushrod and lifter pre-load, and the alignment of the intake ports to the inlet manifold as the cylinder heads mover further in torwards the crank.
 
To increase the compression seems to me to be a bit retrograde, if you are after more power there are many options that can be explored at less cost and none of the disadvantages of engine knocking and availability of higher octane and cost fuels.

Graeme
 
Graeme is right on the money. Having owned and driven a Rover with a 10.5 : 1 engine from 1985 till 2007, and having driven a Rover with a 9.25 : 1 engine on a number of occasions, the latter is definitely the way to go. You can run more initial ignition timing so you'll achieve better engine performance and better fuel economy.

Ron.
 
rockdemon said:
Hi,

10.5:1 engines dont like normal unleaded fuel so i'm guessing you intend to run on super?

Rich

My 10.5:1 grumbles a bit on 95 octane but anything over 97 (Super) it is 100% fine with. In fact it goes like a dream. :mrgreen:
 
The best thing I've done to my 2000TC is lower the CR from 10:1 to 9:1 (export TC spec). Before, there were flat-spots through the range and pinking under hard acceleration that was very difficult (and compromising) to dial out. Performance and rev behaviour is now much more like an injected setup - any revs, any gear, any gradient and it pulls smoothly and progressively up the range. Obviously, the revised carbs, induction and remapped distributor is the real cause of that, but the engine itself is now receptive to what those ancillary components feed it.

If this were Top Gear, I'd be labelled a fool. As we all know, according to the ancient automotive philosopher Clarksonius, the brake horse power figure is the most important number....in the world! But, as Graeme says, there are many more things you can do to extract a more meaningful and useful torque curve out of your engine, especially if you intent to use modern fuel in modern traffic conditions. 155bhp@5500rpm is all fair and well on the autobahn, but if you can't get out of the way of the turbo-diesel Fiesta at 20 mph, there isn't a lot of point in extracting it!

Michael
 
I run a 10.5:1 engine and, knowing the lower compression engine well, I'd prefer the latter. The 10.5 is a pest. It only likes the very high octane fuel (98 here in NZ) and grumbles if it is even slightly out of tune. If more power is your aim, there are other ways to achieve it, as more knowledgeable gentlemen on this forum will soon tell you.

The day my engine shows signs of tiredness I will be planning a lower compression rebuild. Going the other way is unthinkable to me.
 
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