Estoura,

I saved the rear end pic from its previous advertisement. Perhaps the lada screen explains the slightly different shape of the rear window in the cars' current blue guise. In its white guise it's definitely wearing a different bootlid that looks like every other estate I've seen.
 

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Phil Robson said:
Rubythursday said:
You did and I was with it! Was talking to you at Murton last week.
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Unfortunately I didn't make the connection at the time. You were the 'Rountree No.3' owner/driver, I recall.
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Sorry Tony, now I've looked at your webpage I remember!
 
so as i understand this post this car was a zircon blue 2000cc saloon which had the estate parts grafted on to it
then it was fitted with a 2200 tc engine and painted white and at som,e point in its life it has then been possibly
been grafted onto a s1 v8 saloon shell and painted zircon blue again or a s2 saloon shell and had everything changed
to make it look like a s1 estate.
just wondering as my friend has fallen in love with mine and would love an original one to.
 
Hi, the trouble is the number plate doesn't belong to the estate pod, it belongs to
the original P6 shell. I wouldn't touch this car because too many people know too
much about it's history , and is now well documented over four pages on a public
forum.

Colin
 
Rubythursday said:
EMF 68J was once owned by me. I bought the rear half of a shell from a young lad in York. The car had been in a front end smash and the remains were lying in a garden, no engine, gearbox, axle. Just the pod, roof and rear seats. The tailgate glass was smashed. I fitted a Lada windscreen.
I grafted it onto a 2200tc shell, It was Zircon. I sold the vehicle to Mike Couldry who painted it white who in turn sold it to Mark Gray.

I have no idea of the history before me buying the bits and unfortunately a week later the lad was killed in a motorbike accident.
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This was the point where you should of used the 2200 you used's registration details,as the original EMF 68J was effectiverly dead and gone,as the pod and reg screwed onto it do not maketh the car!
Same now applies to whoever has done the most recent restoration,recreation!!
The S1V8 used to rebuild its ID should be on the car,as its just the same as bolting a new bonnet or bootlid on really,and you wouldnt change the reg when doing that!
In that scenario,any car would have the choice of reg numbers from all the parts used off dead cars to keep them alive,just use the one with the best history!
 
colnerov said:
Hi, the trouble is the number plate doesn't belong to the estate pod, it belongs to
the original P6 shell. I wouldn't touch this car because too many people know too
much about it's history , and is now well documented over four pages on a public
forum.

Colin
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I agree. For a car that's very rare, you need to have one that matches up in every respect. It's basically a kit car, just a shame that an unsuspecting buyer will probably buy it thinking it's the real McCoy. I think it's a fair asking price if the car was genuine and legitimate. Still don't up understand that bootlid though. It's unlike any other estoura I've seen before.
 
badrover said:
It's unlike any other estoura I've seen before.
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Perhaps the original tailgate rotted out and someone decided to graft the top bit onto a standard boot lid. It looks tidier than the original tailgate, IMO, these conversions don't seem to have been terribly well designed, or executed!
 
This was the point where you should of used the 2200 you used's registration details,as the original EMF 68J was effectiverly dead and gone,as the pod and reg screwed onto it do not maketh the car!
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I sent all the details off to the Local licensing office with a letter saying what I had done and they sent the log book back which showed model 3500 engine size 2200cc with the original number.

That was more than 20 years ago.
 
After re-bodying another estoura, (not the white one), I had cause to speak to the DVLA about the registration number of the car and I can confirm that the number plate of the POD part can transfer with the POD.
Apparently it all comes down to percentages and because the saloon baseunit has parts chopped out, the conversion parts carry a high enough percentage of the overall car for it to retain the number plate of the car it came off.
In reality DVLA actually asked me which number plate I would like to keep on the finished estate, because you can legitimately have either.

The mistake I made on this particular occasion was asking to keep the registration that was already on the car (the saloon I converted), therefore the registration document was amended from Saloon to Estate. I say mistake because, had I kept the number plate from the original estate, the registration document wouldn't have needed changing and therefore the insurance database wouldn't have thrown a wobbly. The net result was that our insurance company, then required an engineers report on the quote "customisation" of the car that changed from a saloon to an estate,and they then listed it as a 'modified car', ....an unnecessary expense before an after the car was insured for the road,
What was really annoying was when the 'engineer' brought in by the and for the insurance company announced that he had never seen an estate P6 before. But that is a different and very long winded story for another day.
 
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