Exhaust for a 2000SC auto series 1

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FrazzleTC

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Well, I've reached the conclusion that I'll never see my money back from this exhaust, other than perhaps a few quid in scrap metal. There's nothing which can be done to make it acceptable without letting the idiot loose who refuses to admit there's anything wrong.
Anyway, I digress, basically I'd like some very, very cheap 2000SC auto series 1 exhaust bits, mild or stainless I don't mind, as I really can't afford another stainless system because I haven't and won't be able to get my money back from my current one. :(
Let me know if you have anything. :)
Thanks in advance
Fraser
 
Hey - sorry you've not managed to sort it...

However - assuming the bits the previous guy used were probably OK before he touched them, are you sure that someone with the requisite skill and a welder wouldnt be able to help save at least some of it?

Rich.
 
Unfortunately all 3 cans leak at their edges, so even they aren't retrievable, perhaps some of the piping could be used, but it's all the wrong shape annoyingly. The previous exhaust has been disposed of by the exhaust place unfortunately.
 
FrazzleTC said:
Let me know if you have anything. :)
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<Your address> Right justified

<Their address>

<date>

Dear Sirs

[b]Re: Exhaust on my Yellow Rover P6 - reg Number SGH 574F[/b]

I have asked you now on several occasions to repair or replace the exhaust that you fitted to my car, above. I believe I have given you every opportunity to resolve this issue.

I believe that the exhaust that you supplied and fitted to be unfit for the purpose that it was intended for. I have enclosed several photos of the exhaust, and a copy of the invoice for the work you did.

I now require a full refund of the amount on the invoice.

If I do not receive a cheque to the above address within fourteen days of this letter, I will have no alternative but to pass this matter onto the county court. This will of course mean extra costs as I will also claim for the court fee and interest on the amount at 5% per annum worked out on a daily basis.

I hope this course of action will not be necessary

Yours faithfully
 
If you go down quattro's route and write to them make sure you post it recorded delivery so you have proof the garage received it.

I presume at the least you have reported the garage to your local trading standards office?

Dave
 
I've reported that garage to trading standards and they say they are going to pursue the matter further once they have interviewed me by telephone tomorrow. Unfortunately this gentleman has been taken to court quite a few times lately, but has never appeared, and because of the justice system North of the Border, there's very little than can be done, other than sending a sheriff's officer with a court summons. I have however spoken to the head of the firm of which his signage, and his initial claims suggested he was a member of, and they are quite concerned and are currently investigating the matter. Also, if nothing else, I'll just ask HM Revenue and customs to check him, just as a matter of course. :wink: I'll see if small claims is possible, but given that he's never turned up in court on previous occasions, I don't hold out an awful lot of hope. There are no bailiffs here either, annoyingly. :(
 
See what they say to you tomorrow on the phone, but Quattros letter is spot on IMO :wink:
As said, recorded delivery, the proper one and keep copies of all correspondance :)
 
I'm certainly going to give it my best shot, but the exhaust is useless now, at 50 mph it's now impossible to have a conversation without shouting.
 
I recorded my conversation with the chap for the exhaust man, but yes, I shall make a recording of the noise in the car.
 
Hi dont give up and dont let them get away with it, thats what they rely on these people, is that you will give up. I know what you mean the courts are useless when it comes to claiming against poor workmanship or none payers ive been there, but that letter list on here is a great way to go. Get that sent he may take note. Also have a look around and see if a proper stainless steel exhaust place can do anything with yours. im sure someone could. I feel sorry for you and i hope it does nt put you of the car.
Does anyone know if the sc manual box and auto are the same
keep going mate and keep us posted , if i was near you i would go see the man myself :x
regards
marcus
 
Come on chaps!

We all agree that Fraser deserves his money back and I'm sure we'll all support him in achieving that. But don't forget that Scottish Law is entirely different to English Law. Is there anyone in Scotalnd wih any experience of tackling this sort of thing?

In the meantime we need to get Fraser properly mobile. So first requirement is exhaust bits for him!

Chris
 
chrisyork said:
Come on chaps!

We all agree that Fraser deserves his money back and I'm sure we'll all support him in achieving that. But don't forget that Scottish Law is entirely different to English Law. Is there anyone in Scotalnd wih any experience of tackling this sort of thing?

In the meantime we need to get Fraser properly mobile. So first requirement is exhaust bits for him!

Chris
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Sorry Fraser - it didn't occur to me that you were in Scotland.

I am sure that there is a system similar to the English one, that can be utilised for this purpose.

I am in the process of doing just this sort of thing with a company who fitted some tyres on my car and they were awful. Tramlined on white lines when changing lanes and very little grip. They were nearly £300 so I would really like to get my money back on that one.

Best of luck with it

Richard
 
Thanks everyone. I had an interview with trading standards this morning, where I let them see photos of the work, hear a recording of my discussion with him the last time I went, and my receipt. They are going to go round and ask for as much of my money back as possible, and to inform him that he's now subject of a civil, and possibly a criminal investigation. Even if I don't get my money back, my pain will be eased by the fact that he's in a bit of trouble and will be dealt with accordingly by them. :)
If not, I can take him to court, and if he doesn't turn up, I automatically win, but even then, I still won't get anything without spending a lot of money. I'll keep you updated as to what's happening, but in the meantime, if anyone finds some bits of exhaust, I'd be most pleased. :)
 
Small claims court in England is a complete waste of time. He would be under no legal responsibility to pay. The small claims court can find in your favour, award you your money back but if he does not pay then you have to pay more for bailiffs, attachment of earnings etc. After all this if he still does not Pay the court can't force him and he walks away. I know as it has happened to me. He didn't pay a penny. As they say the law is an ass. But fight it because as said earlier that's what these people rely on, you giving in. Good luck.
 
Not wanting to hijack your thread Fraser but...

Like happy days, I issued a claim last year in the County Court for poor workmanship (non car-related) after numerous letters sent Recorded Delivery had been ignored by the defendant.

I was awarded a judgement, which left me with a few options, all of which would have cost me more money in court fees. Tried one last time with a letter, only to be told by the debtor he'd now gone bankrupt - which it seems can now be done at the drop of a hat and doesn't carry the same stigma - or penalties - that it used to. :evil:

That said, Fraser, I admire you for sticking at this and really hope you get the justice you deserve. Hopefully Scottish Law is more consumer-friendly than English in these matters.

Good Luck! :)
 
Hi Fraser i do wish you look with your claim and im pleased you feel that its worth pushing for. Its true that alot of people play on the fact that uk courts are very poor when it comes to getting any justice. but im sure that with the constant leters and court papers he may realise that not only will he have to own up but that his name will be damaged. Has a business owner i know that the worst thing you can do is ignore an unhappy costumer and its always best to come to some sort of settlement with them as the damage to your name is far more damaging than putting things that he knows is wrong right.
i wish you good luck and hope he comes to his senses.
regards
marcus
ps are you having any luck getting some exhaust bits
 
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