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TwinPlenum3500S

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Anybody know which front seatbelts will bolt into a Series 2 3500S, as the inertia has failed on mine. I never wear a belt, but will need to strap the littleun in and get an MOT. Just wondered if belts off any other car would fit, i.e. Rnage Rover, Rover 25 etc, Metro blah blah blah. Or if anybody has a good second hand or NOS set to get me out of trouble? Cheers Jim 07967 920530
 
Jim???????????
Why do you not wear a belt?
Dont you use it on the public roads?
Isnt it setting a bad example to your little un if daddy says you must but I dont! :x
Your little un may survive an accident but he probably wont have a daddy anymore! :cry:
At least one he wont recognise after youve gone through the windscreen!! :shock:
It probably wont be your fault either!!
I have 2 good s/h sets of p6 inertia belts!
And you can have one of the sets for the cost of p/p if you want them!
Make it a round £20 for post and packing and fees via ppal and they are yours!
PM or Email me

Dave
 
As an insurance man I've dealt with lots of claims where someone wasn't belted in . There's a TV advert where some chap dies as his rib punctures his lung and a blood vessel bursts . Or there's the possibility of a serious head injury resulting in permanent brain damage. Do you want to be around as your little'un grows up ?

I think my seat belts only lock as the car slows or corners .Merely pulling the belt proves nothing on this type
 
seatbelt ad
Jim!!
Show this ad to your little un!!!,and then tell him why daddy doesnt believe in seatbelts!

Dave.
There are 2 inertia types fitted to the P6's, one operates via a ball weight that operates the locking mechanism when you brake. The other operates when it recieves a sharp pull on the belt under braking via the torso causing the lock to engage!
Some were fitted with a sort of pre tensioner type bracket on the pillar,which worked under light braking,but gave a little on an impact.
The static type "ive got these front and rear in mine" in the earlier cars should be adjusted so that body movement is minimal when sat in the car,but all controls can be reached.
Any person getting in my car has to wear their seatbelt "unless they have a damned good reason not to" or they can get out and walk!!
pregnant women and medical exemptions aside! But I wouldnt feel happy having them in the car :(
 
Nor do I want to be assaulted from behind by some clown who thinks they are invulnerable just because the are sitting in the back!

I'm also very keen on properly adjusted headrests. A lot of years ago I was driving a Metro (they were thought to be quite good then, and this was a company one) up our local 2 lane motorway (M32) when the traffic in the outside lane stopped. I had time to watch the approaching Saab behind me fail to notice, sit back and upright in my seat with my head touching the headrest and feet planted hard on the brake and then see the Saab spot me at the very last moment and veer hard down my inside. That left an SD1 powering full on at 80 plus with a sudden vision from hell! He never even got to touch the brakes before he hit me and the rear hatch of the Metro finished up touching the front seats. The front was quite a lot shorter too where the car had been bodily picked up and flung into the car in front! Me? I got out without so much as a twinge or scratch! Lets hear it for headrests!

Chris
 
Point taken ... I passed my test at 17 in 1991 and it was not law then. I have never bothered. Pilkie. My car is a 1972. No matter how hard I tug the belts, they do not lock up like more modren belts. Could mine be the earlier type. Also when fitting a baby seat, these types make it awkward to get tight.
 
TwinPlenum3500S said:
Could mine be the earlier type.
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Some work on the the inertia of the belt, others on the inertia of the car.

If you have the latter, just drive down the road and hit the brakes. The belt should lock.

Best to make sure that you it on though 8)
 
TwinPlenum3500S said:
Point taken ... I passed my test at 17 in 1991 and it was not law then. I have never bothered. Pilkie. My car is a 1972. No matter how hard I tug the belts, they do not lock up like more modren belts. Could mine be the earlier type. Also when fitting a baby seat, these types make it awkward to get tight.
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The early type have a steel ball that moves on braking or cornering and activate the locking mechanism! one way I check them is to have a mate pull on the belt while you give the casing a little thump with a fist or light soft hammer, this normally jolts the ball and locks the belt!
Some have a weight on a small pendulum that does the same as the ball!
When fitting a front child seat,you cannot get them tight,they will only go tight in an incident,Far safer to put the kids in the back with fixed belts to secure the seat.
I passed my test in 1977,and have always worn a seatbelt!! When I severely rolled my mini on ice in the 80's,I hit a drystone wall and bent all 4 corners of the car and the roof! it saved me and my mates life!
The only "minor" injury we had was when we undid the belts we fell on our heads as we forgot we were upside down!! :LOL: Way better than being thrown out and killed!!
Wasnt it law in the mid 80's???
I occasionally go out for a drive with a mate who's 1960's car wasnt fitted with belts and I dont feel safe at all!! Thankfully he does drive it slow,but its the other drivers on the road that worry me!!
 
Front seatbelt wearing became compulsary in 1983 for a 3 year trial period, but it was made permanent straight away. Wearing seatbelts in the rear became compulsary in 1991 (asuming they were fitted, and it was 1989 for children under 14).

I don't really want to bang on about this, but one of my wifes friends 18 year old son was killed last christmas in a fairly minor accident simply bacause he wasn't wearing his seat belt (he was the driver).
 
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Front seatbelt wearing became compulsary in 1983 for a 3 year trial period, but it was made permanent straight away.
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Richard I always thought it was earlier than that 1979/80 rings a bell with me as I remember one of my school teachers had a new T reg Mini estate & I remember her telling me about the seatbelt law back then. I could be totally wrong of course the mists of time could be clouding my memory :roll:

Regards Col
 
I'll add my pennies worth

A lot of people where I am ignore the seatbelt regulations, and we have of the highest death rates in Europe on the roads. Recently i saw the end result of one of these. A car which was not that badly damaged had gone into the back of a lorry. The front of the was only mildly pushed in so the speed can't have been that fast. Big hole in the windscreen where occupant of car had gone through to impact the back of the lorry. Beside this was a body covered in a plastic sheet.
 
The internet is a wonderful thing - a search results

"The law mandating the compulsory wearing of seat belts for front seat occupiers came into force on January 31, 1983 in the UK[18]. Evidential breath testing was introduced at the same time"
 
And here I was convinced it was when I was still at 1st school, I remember it being the January but I could have sworn it was earlier than '83. Just goes to show you doesn't it time plays tricks on your mind.

Regards Colin
 
I remember the "Clunk click every trip" adverts when it came in .... it was when I was a boy thinking about it now. I do remember the law coming in and thinking about my Dad telling me to do it all the time as he chain smoked in our old Datsun 120Y! Apparently it is 25 years since the law was passed ... time flies.
 
Remember TP3500s , you may be a brilliant driver , but is the person coming the other way towards you ?

At the end of the day ,it's up to you

NB 3 points each time you get pulled by the Police
 
DaveHerns said:
NB 3 points each time you get pulled by the Police
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I'm not so sure about that, ISTR it's a fine only and not points, but I may be wrong.

Working in a garage that did police rota accident recovery when I was a kid was enough to convince me of the merits of seatbelts, long before it became compulsory.
 
If you are going to get thrown through your windscreen are you better off with the old type toughened glass (like a P6) or modern laminated glass ?
 
Hopefully death will be pretty instantaneous,as I would imagine a lingering death would be a tad painful ,as they tried to seperate the drivers body from the parts of the car stuck in it!!!
Dont think it will matter about the screen,,as the steering wheel will probably be partially impaled in his chest!!
With a toughened screen you go through like a missile and land on the road only to probably be hit by the other car as the accident motion happens.
With a laminated they will no doubt stop but your internals will carry on after being ripped about by the steering wheel,and probably explode out the top of his head!
 
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