Garage Grumble - the world's worst garage?

rp61973

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After moving house in June, one of my priorities was to get the single detached garage all sorted out so I could get the old girl (my car) in there. I intend to pull it down and rebuild a proper block, but for the time being need to get it in service.

Firstly the wall at the rear of the garage (with a window above) had been shunted by the old boy who lived there before he passed away. The shunt had fractured the wall and pushed the midspan outwards (in a V shape). The rotten timber window above had stayed in place but had been shored up to the beam above with metal plates. When it rained, the water ran off the window and straight into the interior of the garage.

I junked the window, pushed the wall back onto the damp course with the aid of a large sledge (gentle taps of course) and sealed the wall with silicon and screwed some steel plates over the cracks. I replaced the void where the window had resided with a timber frame, painted with a couple of coats of fenceguard.

So far so good. I then turned my attention to the leaky roof (asbestos cement corrugated panels). I siliconed all the joints, patched some areas at the edges where the roof had broken and use some sealing foam on a large gap at the side pier where water had trickled in like a mini river when it rained.

Has it been a success? No, in a word.

With the recent heavy rain, it is apparent that the asbestos cement roof is very porous. I spent 2 hours on a crawling board cleaning around an estimated 30 kilos of moss off the roof yesterday. I then brushed/hosed the roof down. I have a paint sealer specially formaulated for using on asbestos roofs - and it says can be painted on wet surfaces. Well, I tried it yesterday and the paint will not stick to even a slightly damp surface. AAAAAGGHHHHHH! :x :x :x
 
suppose to dry up a bit this week , be worth another go with it dry . You'll have to crack on with your new one :D
 
Trouble is funds and priorities, Stina, and the new garage will need to partly occupy the location of the old one.

We have a major house refurb/extension coming up. Good job and all really; as I speak the rain has started to drip through the kitchen ceiling in two places (again).

I am beginning to wonder if this is all a bad dream and I will wake up to a watertight house and garage. :?
 
At least you have a garage. My new one should have been built by now, but I've been arguing with the builder since August about the base he laid. His own surveyor says that it's on a 1 in 33 incline, and too steep to build a garage on, but he won't listen. I've sent him the final email telling him to sort it out; next step is court.

Either way, it's costing me a fortune to keep the cars in storage in the meantime.
 
That asbestos stuff is rubbish when it's old- the stuff on the top of my garage is all porous and coming to bits, we phoned the landlord and said it's no good it's leaking, they sent some cowboys round who covreed the whole thing with corrugated black plastic stuff, screwed through the original asbestos stuff, and surprise surprise it's leaking again.

If I'd paid for it then I'd not have let them leave without doing it properly, but I thought it would be OK...

too steep to build a garage on

out of interest, why's that an issue? Make it harder to jack stuff up I suppose but easy draining!
 
Surprisingly enough, after scraping the mass of moss away I had a look into the garage tonight (after the torrential rain) to find the underside of the roof had dried out slightly and the inside is not quite as damp. If the weather is agreeable this weekend, I will slap the sealant up there. A glimmer of hope, at least.
 
1396midget said:
too steep to build a garage on

out of interest, why's that an issue? Make it harder to jack stuff up I suppose but easy draining!

There are a lot of issues. The builders won't build on that angle for a start. I can't push a car around a garage with that amount of incline - it's more like release handbrake and let the car drift towards the road. I have to rev the V8 to get it up to the back of the area, so pushing a car with a dead engine just won't happen.
 
Isn't it quite hard to lay concrete on an angle? Maybe your builder has a hidden talent.

I'm not enjoying reading this thread though as I've just put my house up for sale and seen one I'd like to buy that has a single garage which needs replacing......
 
rp61973 said:
I then turned my attention to the leaky roof (asbestos cement corrugated panels). I siliconed all the joints, patched some areas at the edges where the roof had broken and use some sealing foam on a large gap at the side pier where water had trickled in like a mini river when it rained.

I'm sure I don't have to tell you but avoid any drilling, cutting, breaking, removal etc of the asbestos. It is truely nasty stuff that can lead to serious health issues. Once inhaled the fibres remain in your lungs. Ideally it should all be removed by a specialist contractor. If you're planning any further works you'll need to have it properly surveyed. It's something to bear in mind if you're budgeting on repairs as it can be quite expensive and unlicenced disposal is dealth with severely.
Regards,
Dave
 
I think the roof stuff is OK, as it's just asbestos impregnated concrete rather than the full fat nacker your lungs stuff. Could be wrong though, but the fellers who came to do my roof had no special stuff.
 
Yes, in theory a single fibre can be inhaled and cause health issues, but correct the asbestos cement board is not the most hazardous stuff (blue or brown asbestos). Provided one is sensible and doesn't break the board and inhale particles, all should be ok.
 
Brown asbestos and especially Blue asbestos are in the one fibre is enough category. They're easy to spot because of the colour and are usually to be found in insulation, either board or loose fibre, in 60's and 70's commercial buildings. They occasionally crop up as a sprayed on layer in trains, ships and the like.

White asbestos is in a different category. It is harmfull, but only in large quantities inhaled as dust. So people involved in it's production are at risk and people who are doing large amounts of demolition and disposal. It is on a par with coal dust and cereal (wheat etc) dust. Damage is cumulative.

So, in the context of a garage roof, if you damp things down and wear a face mask whilst working with it, there's really negligable risk. That doesn't stop there being reams of regulations around it though...

Chris
 
^WHS.

Hopefully tomorrow we will have a nice dry and bright day and then I can get my sealant brushed on. Similar weather to today's would be fine. Cold but dry.
 
British Gas have just removed the old asbestos flue in my stepson's house by smashing it at one end and sawing through it in the loft !
Plus they expect one man to hold up a 45kg boiler whikle screwing it to the wall
 
I had a "rodent" problem in my garage. piles of droppings on the Jaguar, and then spots on all the newly primed Rover panels. I pulled down the ceiling and insulation I had put above the Jag and found flying "rodents" AKA bats. Now with no place to call home, no more debris or spots.
 
Hi, you would have had the bat police after you if you had done that over here.

Protected...See!!

Colin
 
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