Ill Rover..needs help

Retroreject

Retroreject

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Hi guys,

Just before Christmas i put a request out for anyone selling and engine, as i thought mine was on it's last legs.
Well not so long afterwards no.4 cylinder decided to die and i am now left with a rather ill sounding engine. It still runs and drives, but obviously has little power and is making a hell of a racket ( i also think something else may have seriously gone wrong as its making a metal slapping noise, like something has broken off ). I sadly had to purchase another car over the new year to get me around, and dont laugh, but bought a Renault Clio with t&t for ten months for £300 to get me out the poo so to speak. Normally i wouldnt touch anything like that, but has to be said has been good as gold.

Im now rather desperately trying to find another engine and preferably gear box as well, as it would be easier to change as one lump. My car is a manual Tc, but have been thinking about converting to SC as my carbs were never great. Any one with anything for sale, 2 or 2.2 litre please get in touch. I live near Bournemouth and could collect if not a million miles away. Ive seen a engine on the dreaded ebay, but cant afford to spend the £165 he's asking. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Alex.
 
Does it sound like a jack hammer? Does the oil have a glitter look to it? Could be the big ends. The sump will come off with the engine in situ so you could have a quick look.

If not it's head of time, could be a valve broken up. But by the sounds of what you described I think its the big ends. I know, I've had the big ends go on mine before (a few years ago).
 
Not Rover related, but I once converted a car from a 4 cylinder with a 5spd to a fire breathing 12a extend port, 5spd and Toyota Hilux differential all because I thought the original 5spd had broken.

Turned out the clutch cable had frayed and one of the mounting points had broken, everything looked like it was working but it wasn't. It never hurts to have a look!
 
£165 isn't a lot to spend on a good engine. You may be able to get one for less, but would you really trust it?
 
I'm with Chris on this... if you investigate the engine and find something major has happened, you'll likely spend a lot more than £165. You dont want to put it in then find that it blows blue smoke or something. The condition is more important than the price within reason...

Rich.
 
I had big ends go on my 2.2 turned from a perfectly normal sounding engine, to a bag of bolts in a couple of hundred miles. Dropped the sump and there was 1/4 inch of play in at least one big end, crank was also damaged. I bought another engine for £100, hired a crane and dropped it in over a weekend, job done and the new engine was very good, although I hadn't heard it running before hand so was a bit of a gamble.
 
Echoing the posts above, if you're happy to replace the engine anyway - just pull it and and spend a bit of time investigating before jumping into your wallet for another.

It will probably be repairable and even if not, you'll have some fun and a damn good step along the learning curve - valuable help available on here from Harvey and so many others! :D

Good Luck!
 
Cheers guys, ive sourced an engine from a mk2 sc auto. Ile obviously need to change the fly wheel over as my car is a manual , and ile be putting a new clutch in whiles its all out. Apart from that, from what im led to believe should be an easy conversion. Im going to convert it to single carb as Ive never been happy with the twins on mine. Ile need to use the exhaust on the SC as im converting it, should make it easier than swapping manifolds over, and i can just put it in as one lump in theory once ive re-attached the manual gearbox. Everything else should be straight forward (famous last words!). Im guessing ile need to alter or swap the accelerator and choke linkages from twin to fit the SC. Once the engine and new clutch is back in then its on to the bodywork.

Theres a little rust on the front valance, and rust breaking through on the bottoms of the doors, so ile take the chance to sort that out before painting...

In keeping with period feel ive decided on a coffee beige colour. Will being sourcing another interior, as mines a tan leather and it could end up looking like a rather large digestive!.



To be continued..
 
Have to say, that sounds a good idea to me, The noises you describe from your old engine sound more like a holed piston than valve trouble or bearing trouble - if it was bearings alone it should still be running on all four.

With your new engine, I would be inclined to change the main and big end bearings before you fit it. These are effectively a service item on the 4 cylinder engine. People opine as low as 50,000mls between changes, so you won't want to be doing this twice, will you?!! Brian Northampton and Richard UK both have lengthy and informative threads on this and it isn't difficult.

Also ensure you fit it with a full house of renewed coolant hoses and a set of new sideplates (and the baby one on the back of the head). If the new engine has been out of use for a while it's sure to need them! Having the side plates off will also give you the opportunity to thoroughly de-sludge the inside of the block.

Once you have had an opportunity to try your car as an SC, you may find the performance a bit down (!). If so there is no problem simply overhauling your current TC head at your leisure and fitting it to the new engine later. A very good solution to the carb dilema on the TC is to fit the smaller HIF44 carbs from a 2200TC which vastly immprove the slow running without sacrifice of top end performance.
 
hi,
don't forget to change the spigot bush. also the sc auto exhaust wont fit your manual car, you will need a sc manual downpipe.

ian
 
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