Shedtune P6 Progress

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First a bit of History

1972 Rover P6 SC - Brown purchased about 2000,must admit not really sure when and how I ended up with it! Some good friends back in the village I grew up up in Cumbria own a garage the P6 ended up with them and knowing my addiction for old British cars they kept it back for me and stashed it in their old showroom- the garage was a BL/Rover dealer for about 30 odd years so lots of old N.O.S bit stashed in the loft!

This year I decided to get the Rover running and use it - to Drive to Nice in the South of France and back via the Alps etc ,we normally do this in one of my Triumphs every two years ,but as I started out with Rovers - P5B and lots of SD1 V8s I thought it would be great to get back into them

My partner in crime on these daft jaunts is life long friend Ben "Homer" Hobson

Right so back to the car

It hasn't been started for 7 years - Homer got it running yesterday after a major battle getting a snapped spark plug out of No1 Cylinder details can be found on my Blog http://shedtune.blogspot.co.uk/ - now this blog is a bit random and contains a few swears so if you don't like that sort of thing don't click on the link!

The next phase of the project is to get the old lump back down to me in Somerset to Shedtune HQ where I will ready it for MOT and its European trip

First job is to convert it from Auto to manual so any tips please,the list of bits I think I need are as follows but all advice greatly received on how to do the conversion and bits needed

Manual Box
Prop-shaft
Pedal box
Clutch master
Clutch slave
Gear lever/ linkage
Clutch kit
Spigot bush for crank?

Updates to follow...and thanks in advance for advice etc
 
You'll also need

- a flywheel
- the radiator of a 3500S
- the brake fluid reservoir with two connectors
- the centre console of a 3500 S
- the exhaust Y-pipe of a 3500 S

If you want to make the conversion reversible in later years, you will have to fabricate adapters for the gearbox mounts.
 
Junkman said:
You'll also need


- the radiator of a 3500S
- the brake fluid reservoir with two connectors
- the centre console of a 3500 S
- the exhaust Y-pipe of a 3500 S
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It's a 2000 not a V8 so the current rad will be OK, and the pedal box from a manual car will have a clutch master with its own reservoir. An SC frontpipe is different manual and auto, but IIRC the auto pipe runs wider, so may well fit around the manual box.

The spigot bush will need changing.
 
Thanks lot for you replies very useful info will keep you posted with further school boy questions as they come up!
 
So to recap

I would need a flywheel from a manual car (2000) crank spigot, and of course the center console from a manual car

Cheers
 
shedtune said:
Manual Box
Prop-shaft
Pedal box
Clutch master
Clutch slave
Gear lever/ linkage
Clutch kit
Spigot bush for crank?
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shedtune said:
So to recap

I would need a flywheel from a manual car (2000) crank spigot, and of course the center console from a manual car

Cheers
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That looks like pretty much everything covered I would think except for the speedo cable, which according to my parts catalogue is a different part number.

The pedal box is removed from inside the car, while the clutch and brake master cylinders are in the engine bay, joined together by the long actuator/pushrod, which needs to be unscrewed from inside to remove. Should just be a case of removing the blanking plate beside the brake master cylinder then bolt the clutch master cylinder on and fit the manual pedal box.

I don't know what the 2000 auto gearbox mounts look like, but I would assume a custom mount would need to be fabricated to attach the manual gearbox rear mounts, which is a curious spring and rubber bush arrangement which will need to be accurately set-up requiring measurements from a donor car for the exact positioning.

Beyond that, I think everything should just bolt together, I've never had a chance to get properly underneath one of our 2000 auto's to compare, but I would expect the oil filler holes in the tunnel to be in a different place, and the gear selector to be in almost the correct place.
 
Hello again -time for an update and some school boy questions!

The flying turf has landed and is now in my shed at shedtune HQ - all though its only been here a week Ive been banned from tinkering until bathroom and bedroom renovations are further underway

Still having trouble posting pictures on her but you can see what I have been up to on my blog -http://shedtune.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/normal-rubbish-plus-some-other-stuff.html

I've got my self a manual box and 2000 sc engine as a complete unit along with a section of tunnel from a manual +pedal box etc so pretty confident about the auto to manual swap when the time comes
In the mean time want to sort the body out-
Its had some repairs in the past these need "re-doing" and some new ones, I shall post some pics up on my blog in the next few days
Right so 1 st school boy question - my outer sills seem to be screwed on ! is this normal or has someone fitted cover sills? - I think I know the answer but would like to here from you guys!

I will post again when I have some more relevant pictures on the blog - and when I can sneak into the shed!
 
shedtune said:
Right so 1 st school boy question - my outer sills seem to be screwed on ! is this normal or has someone fitted cover sills?
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They're supposed to be screwed on. It's when some idiot welds them on to hide the rot that you've got problems:
UEY_sill_1.jpg
 
Willy Eckerslyke said:
shedtune said:
Right so 1 st school boy question - my outer sills seem to be screwed on ! is this normal or has someone fitted cover sills?
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They're supposed to be screwed on. It's when some idiot welds them on to hide the rot that you've got problems:
UEY_sill_1.jpg
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Will get them whipped off over the weekend and have a look see

I have a feeling I will be needing inner+ outer sills along with bottom base unit repair panels?!
 
Looks like a great project that you've got there! A friend of mine saw a brown 2000 in a garage where he gets his Landy MOT'd in Cumbria, so I assume it's the same car. I think he saw it about two weeks ago?
Just out of interest, why are you changing from auto to manual? I assume for performance?
 
If it was Riverside Gargae Holmrook - Dave and Andy own the place Homer (Ben) makes the tea and litters the place with VWs when he is "helping out"

Ironically I had my Disco serviced and MOTd there back in October when I was up visiting family in the half term hols

It used to be Mitchells+ Son a Rover/BL dealership for years - I grew up in the village and spent many hours there when Peter Mitchell owned it (the son) ,his father before him (he used to repair TVs there !) Peter passed on around 1993

The P6 I have known since my early teens - it belonged to the Grandfather of a girl I went to school with it was always serviced and looked after at Mitchells (as it was then)

It ended up with me as Dave knew I loved my old british cars and bought it when it failed its MOT - by now the friends Grandfather had passed on and it hadn't been looked after to well by the new owner (post 1995) so it was tucked away for a rainy day ...now that rainy day has come and I have a big shed to put it in and restore it

Whats your friends name - I might know him?

The manual conversion is purely for my driving pleasure and to help the performance- must admit I feel a bit guilty converting such and original car.
 
Excellent! Always nice to buy a car that you've known for a long time, as you feel obliged to look after it just that bit more! My friend with the Landies is Phil Griffiths.
I wouldn't feel too guilty about it, afterall, it's clear that it's you that's saved the car, and it's yours to do with, as you please!
 
Got the NS sill off last night will do the OS tonight / Sunday - have to sneak out there in-between house bashing/parenting duties -
Pictures to follow soon on blog
 
Hi I wouldn't worry too much about repair panels. This being a box section and all.

I used a repair panel on one side but ended up cutting it down anyway. Perhaps try welding to clean metal first and see how thin it is? Watch out for the glue/ carpet backing that sticks to the metal. It likes to smoulder then catch light!

If you check my pae sleipnir thread I had a go and I'm a complete amateur....

Rich.
 
Cheers

I had all ready has a sneaky peak at your thread - I've rescued a few cars worse than this -the most recent being the Spitfire http://shedtune.blogspot.co.uk/2011_09_01_archive.html -that's the spit getting some angle grinder action, when I can sneak some more shed time will get the grinder out and start getting back to clean metal and see how much I need to fabricate

Today's school boys questions-

Where do the fuel lines run ? - whats that black plastic line tucked in the sill on the O/S?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xfOA_zwj7u0/UUeotrydn2I/AAAAAAAAAZ0/qgTyeakpunc/s1600/068.JPG
Will the wiring loom running the length of the sill disconnect easily one end to allow you to get it out the way before you set fire to it with the welder!?
 
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