Still no oil presure!!!!!!

hawkit12

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Ok sump removed an cleaned oil pickup removed an cleaned oil pump removed an cleaned put it all back tgether with new gaskets an guess what no pressure.
So now not only will this car not run it don't have any oil pressure either.
Think i,m at the end of my tether.
Are there any club members whom live any where near york who'd like to share there knowledge in a hands on kinda way because i,m completely out of ideas.

cheers all can see this car ending up back on ebay as a non runner :LOL:
 
Because without packing the pump it won't pull the oil up from the sump. Now you have two choices, 1) remove the pump cover again and pack the gears with Vaseline or 2) make or buy a priming tool, remove the distributor and use the tool to get the oil pressure up using an electric drill. Whichever way you choose prefill the filter with as much oil as you can as well.
 
Ah thanks i'll give that a go prob go for the tool as the pump is a real pain to get off. Don't suppose you have any ideas to my running problem either? Starts just but won't rev checked all the obvoius stuff an replaced all the cap,plugs etc rebuilt the carbs still the same problem?
cheersa
Richard
 
Running problems are a bit difficult for the obvious reasons, but if everything is as it should be as regards the engine tuning, (particularly the needles haven't fallen out of the pistons in the carbs) then in rare cases it can be the torque converter. If you got to the point where you thought it might be that then you could remove the halfmoon cover plate underneath, remove the 4 torque converter to flexplate bolts, and run the engine like that to see if it cures the problem.
 
defo not the carbs had them in bits an replaced everything that can be replaced in them. Not even thought about the torque converter didn,t even know it would affect the running. How would it affect it like i say my knowledge is limited
Cheers
Richard
 
If the converter breaks up and/or siezes internally it can stop the engine revving up as the engine isn't powerful enough to overcome the extra drag. I have seen it happen, but as I said before, it's a rare occurance, I've probably only come across a couple in about 40 years. It's far more likely to be an engine problem. Loads of things there to cause it. (Lack of mechanical advance?)
 
Well thanks for your hepl ref oil pump just ordered the tool for the job so i'll get me some oil pressure first then move back to the running issue i'll keep your user name to pm if i run into real probs :LOL:

Thanks loads
Richard
 
There are two types of priming tool, depending on the type of oil pump drive, you need the P6B type, not SD1. (Providing the timing cover hasn't been changed of course.....)
 
Its listed for rover/rangerover/tvr v8 but has the slot at the end so should be ok unless there are different sizes of slot but sure it can be modified
Cheers
Richard
 
If the oil pump drive on the bottom of the distributor is male, then it's P6B, if it's female it's SD1. It may have the later front cover, or an oil pump upgrade kit on it, so whatever you need to get the job done.
 
ok modified the item i got through the post as it was as you correctly said wrong no i have spun till the light goes out but no pressure is registering on the gauge an i have a rocker cover an there is only a really really really small trickle of oil coming through!!!! is this right ???

cheers
Richard
 
If the light is going out it must be getting pressure up to about 7psi. The longer you run the priming tool on the drill, the more oil you should see at the top end, but lots of engines have a poor supply to that area, and that's another problem. The faster you run the drill, the higher the pressure should get. If you're getting oil up to the top, and the light's going out, then your next move is to take a chance and start it.
 
It is quiet possible that your gauges oil presure sender is either intermittant or faulty as this is a common failing given the age of the unit how ever as Harvey has said you must be geting at least 7 lbs for the oil light to be out.

My own sender unit is a little intermittant and 1 in 20 starts it does not work till I have driven a couple of hundred meters up the road, disconserting when I first noticed the problem but the oil light was out and no undue engine rattles.

Graeme
 
harveyp6 said:
If the light is going out it must be getting pressure up to about 7psi. The longer you run the priming tool on the drill, the more oil you should see at the top end, but lots of engines have a poor supply to that area, and that's another problem. The faster you run the drill, the higher the pressure should get. If you're getting oil up to the top, and the light's going out, then your next move is to take a chance and start it.

I have the same problem i primed the oilpump with priming tool on the drillmachine, i have disassembled one rockercover but i see no oil flow, my oilwarning light and oil pressure gauge are not working so i can see notthing.
I primed mybe 10 minutes and the drillingmachine started smoking ( i think the oil pump is primed because the machine had it not eassy) but strange i see no oilflow.
 
I've just been having a problem with my car too. When I first started driving it, the oil pressure was about 45psi on the gauge when driving, but recently it struggles to get on the gauge. I was concerned at first, but the oil light wasn't lit, and the engine sounded sweet. I got home and checked everything, and found that the wire was a slightly loose fit on the oil pressure transmitter, so the vibration of the engine running was causing a poor (resistive) connection, so it was reading a value, but reading low. I cleaned and tightened the spade, and now everything is good. The trouble with oil pressure gauges is that they can cause paranoia; The gauge reads zero, therefore the oil pressure must be zero. Not necessarily true. I checked my pressure gauge by shorting the oil pressure transmitter wire to earth, you should get full scale reading on the oil pressure gauge. That proves the wiring to the gauge. If that's working, then maybe the sender's not. These engines don't tend to have huge amounts of oil sloshing around the top end anyway, so be wary of using that as a benchmark. If the oil light goes out, then there must be some pressure. I recently changed the oil on mine, and with my other cars, I always disconnected the coil to stop it starting, and crank it til the oil light goes out before allowing the engine to start. I couldn't do this with my car, I couldn't get any pressure on the starter alone. I bit the bullet & started it, because I knew it was ok before, & I'd only drained the oil & changed the filter, and when it started, it sounded fine, and the light went out & the gauge started reading properly only after the engine was running. I'm not saying that your car's the same, but just saying don't always trust the oil pressure gauge without doing other tests. Maybe you could remove the sender & connect a mechanic's oil pressure gauge to test your pressure hydraulically instead of electrically?
 
another tip if you dont have the tool or want to take the dizzy out is to get a cake icing tool and fill it with vasaline, I forget how you get acces to the pump, maybe though a hole for one of the pressure sensors but then flick the starter to just turn it a bit and squeeze in some vasaline and keep repeating that untill its full and you should be ok :D
 
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