Talago for Sale

Be interesting to see what it goes for.. doubt it'll hit the 10k mark though.

It's a unique car, but how much of it is actually original? Is the rev counter pod an original item, or would they have used something similar to the early rev counters mounted alongside the strip speedo?

I'll look forward to reading the article in C&SC
 
Interesting....
Is it supposed to be a pre-63 car as a Talago?

The doors are post 66 though.
 
Demetris said:
Interesting....
Is it supposed to be a pre-63 car as a Talago?

The doors are post 66 though.
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It was one of the Talago prototypes.. P6/16, and then re-panelled and used as one of the V8 engine prototypes. It's been totally rebuilt, but is a unique car.
 
Quoting from Taylor:

First registered Aug 10th 1962. Either first or second car able to accept production panels. Built with LHD and used for Continental testing and noise and vibration development work. Sold 1964 to a Rover test engineer and converted to RHD. Fitted with V8 development engine no 215/8/30. Engine was mainly Buick but possibly Rover modified. Experimental gearbox generally as 2000 but with stiffer spring loading and higher 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear ratios than production. Date of engine conversion not recorded. Rebuilt in 1970 into a "new" (1963) 2000 base unit no 42500019A - ie 19th base unit in the production series.

As seen today there are clearly V8 features to the inner wings. I suspect this has been achieved in the same way as Simon Owen's, ie by grafting V8 inner wings onto a 2000 base unit chassis rails etc.

It's generally reckoned to have had a classic Talago front end with the "Cows Horn" split bumpers and Talago vented 1/4 panels at one stage - but clearly not now. It also evidently once had hollow tubular rear drive shafts and a thicker than standard roll bar. I understand the "new" base unit had the boot area modified to Talago spec with a shallower floor and the spare wheel on the right.

Chris
 
How much do you think it will sell for? What's its worth? Its in the best colour combination for me !

Aaron.
 
aml194 said:
How much do you think it will sell for? What's its worth? Its in the best colour combination for me !

Aaron.
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Aaron,

I agree re the colour scheme. The NADA car I brought back from the States last year was originally burnt grey, and I love that colour.

It is a unique car, alongside the P6 Convertible, and is in excellent condition, but I'd be surprised if it hits 10k. After all, it's not exactly an E-type. I'd guess at more like 6-8k.. but that's just a guess. Not really the type of car that you'd drive every day.

I'll certainly be watching it.
 
I would love to own this car, Having owned the Convertible for a while and letting it go this would be ideal, I will be watching with interest too!

It was good to meet you at the week end Chris.

Aaron.
 
That is a beautiful looking car! Is the inner wings something that Rover would have done as part of the prototype work or has that been done at a later date?
 
Bearing in mind the re-shell in 1970, I would suspect that the inner wings and the V8 installation were done then - but I have no proof. It would be about the right time for Rover to be having a clear out of the experimental V8's so everything seems to fit. The base unit as 1963 No 19 might well have been retained not built up for torsion tests or similar of an early production (as opposed to handbuilt) base unit and that sounds an appropriate time to have got rid of that too. The Taylor note has it as a "new" 1963 base unit. It could even have been used as a mule to mock up the intended mods for the V8 base unit and therefore modded in factory. What I don't know is whether it has V8 spacing chassis rails or 4 cylinder spacing, but it must have started off at 4 cyl spacing. If anyone is sufficiently eagle eyed it ought to be possible to tell from the phots whether that is a V8 bumper or 4 cyl; it might even be possible to spot what cut outs are in the undertray.

Chris

I've just blown the low front end shot up and I reckon it is a V8 front bumper. But equally I'm pretty sure the grilles - and therefore the headlamp spacing - are 4 cyl.
 
I do like the comment on the Brightwells website:

Rover Talago P6 Prototype
Recent £65,000 restoration; the only surviving factory prototype of the Rover P6


£65k restoration?! You have got to be kidding me.. And not that recent. It must be a few years old now.
I do find it interesting that none of the history, including the re-shelling, has been listed. I will be watching to see how in-depth the C&SC article is, but as the auction date is late June, the July issue of C&SC might not be out by then. Bad timing, or planned timing??
 
Having personal experience of working to the standards that Ian's Talago has been done to I have absolutely no doubt that £65k is genuine :oops: I'm pretty sure it hasn't been finished for more than about a year - although it's been in progress for much longer.

Chris
 
chrisyork said:
Having personal experience of working to the standards that Ian's Talago has been done to I have absolutely no doubt that £65k is genuine :oops: I'm pretty sure it hasn't been finished for more than about a year - although it's been in progress for much longer.

Chris
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The 65k will be a ball park figure.

All parts used were new with very few exceptions
...it will be worked out on current market values at the time of those parts.

65k is not out of the window for one of Mr Trapps cars..... :wink:

..however he has (or had) probably the best collection of brand new P6 parts in the world.

I wish the vendor well with the sale - my reckoning is around 9k and it will be out of the UK
 
chrisyork said:
Having personal experience of working to the standards that Ian's Talago has been done to I have absolutely no doubt that £65k is genuine :oops: I'm pretty sure it hasn't been finished for more than about a year - although it's been in progress for much longer.

Chris
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Really? I remember seeing it at the NEC a few years ago now, and assumed that it was complete then?

Oracle said:
The 65k will be a ball park figure.

All parts used were new with very few exceptions
...it will be worked out on current market values at the time of those parts.

65k is not out of the window for one of Mr Trapps cars..... :wink:

..however he has (or had) probably the best collection of brand new P6 parts in the world.

I wish the vendor well with the sale - my reckoning is around 9k and it will be out of the UK
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Wow. Even restoring my XJR-S won't cost me that much, and it's one of only 300 5.3l JaguarSport XJR-S's built, despite going down the same route as the Talago with a replacement chassis/panels. I suppose the price reflects not only the standard of work carried out, but those paid to carry it out on behalf of..

Out of the UK? Where do you think it will go to? I know a lot of people who will be watching it, and I know that the UK exchange rate isn't the greatest, but £9k is still US$12k, Aus$15k and NZ$20k.. plus shipping. That's a lot of money to spend from those countries..
 
Chris w

I did not say Ian Trapp PAID 65k to restore the Talago
I said that was the sum of it's parts at current market value at the time of the restoration
...and he also has/had a VERY good collection of new parts. :wink:

..and we all know how even the little things cost the Earth if they are New Old Stock :shock:

There are other countries beside US Aus & NZ where shipping would be less
...you can even drive there in a day from the UK.
 
I seen this car at the NEC and it was LOVELY.

Ian was telling me all about it and some of the detail was very very interesting. The quality was extremely good.

I was impressed with the Buick engine, I had no idea that it varied from the rover version as much as it does.

Anyone buying this car will be a happy chappie.

Colin
 
It's a reshell and hasn't got the correct front end , so we are told
Is it any more a genuine Talago than the car Reg Mason built was a genuine one of it's type and that caused no end of arguments ?
What year is the engine ?
Isn't it a bit like buying a Ford Escort with claimed motorsport pedigree and finding it's been reshelled , new engine etc ?
Nice car but what is it really ?
 
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