The inheiritance. 1976 P6b

Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

ewokracing wrote,...
Judging by the "old car noises" I'd say the tyres have got flat spots on them, the steering needs some sort of look-see as its making a slight groaning noise, the brakes sound like the pads are worn and are very grabby, the list goes on and on!
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Hello ER,

The steering pump can sometimes groan when cold, but once the fluid warms the noise disappears. The high pressure hose should it be allowed to move and make contact with the inner wings can also result in noise being transferred inside the car.

The OEM pads and some OEM replacement pads were fitted with brake pad wear indicators. If so when the pads are worn to the safe minimum level, application of the brakes will see the red brake warning light on the dash illuminate. This light will also come on should the brake fluid within the reservoir fall below the minimum limit. Activation of the hand brake will also see the light come on. If the brake pads do not have the wires coming from them and / or they are not plugged into the circuit, then the warning light will not illuminate under any circumstance.

Very grabby brakes can be an indication that the fluid bleed for the air control piston within the booster slave cylinder has been enlarged.

Hope the Rostyle wheels come to fruition... :D

Ron.
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

ah, I did see a light flicker on the dash and then go out, I wondered what that was. I'll have to read the owners manual in depth I think, so many things to read up on and understand, it's all a bit different from 70's Japanese cars.
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

In the twenty five years I've owned our P5B, the PAS has 'sung' to us every now & again & is no cause for alarm, rather it adds more personality to the car.
It's a bit like whalesong. :)
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

ha! Yes, this car makes the same noises that I remember as a child, sitting in the back seat.

Good news, car is booked in for a transmission inspection this saturday, probably going to end up as a full rebuild. :)
 
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Transmission bloke rung yesterday, had a bit of a blowout with the transmission repair costs (which I expected) but at least I'll have it back before xmas.

I'll be picking it up next week. Looking forward to going for a drive!
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

Picked up the car this morning. Very happy. Has a newly rebuilt change-over 'box in it and they've done a little bit of tweaking to make it shift a bit harder.

The transmission shop was right next door (as I've mentioned before I think) to a carburettor shop so I think I'll go there after xmas and see what state the SU's are in.

Future things:
- oil and filter change
- brakes need some tlc (what i the light that is on above the clock? brake warning light?)
- suspension probably also needs some tlc from sitting for so long

DRIVE IT!

ps. if anyone from Melbourne can recommend a decent mechanic either close to the cbd (I work in the city) or nearish to the north west (Essendon), I'm all ears.
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

Good to hear, out of interest what sort of $ did the rebuilt gearbox run you for?

On your other bits:
- Oil and filter takes minutes to do yourself on one of these since the filter is so easily accessible. Repco etc stock the filters.

- Brakes could just need bled and a full fluid change from standing for a while most likely as the fluid deteriorates with time/moisture etc.

- Ball joints etc may be worth doing when you're looking at the suspension as they made a huge difference on mine, even the ones that didn't look too bad visually and weren't showing much play by hand were completely knackered when i got them off the car. Most of the bits are pretty easy to get hold of and not overly expensive. Have a good check of the bushes too and bits like the rear diff mount as if they have not been replaced then chances are that could be getting a touch on the rotten side by now. Shock bushes are the other ones to have a look at, most P6s i have seen have shot front shock top bushes as a result of them having the pin through the wrong hole in the mount. Nice and easy/cheap to fix and makes a big difference to how the car feels having it properly bushed.

Cheers,

Al

Ps. May well be able to bring my P6 out to meet yours in the not overly distant future, looking at getting a few jobs finished off on it over xmas and then getting a RWC done on it early in the new year.
 
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tvr_v8 said:
Good to hear, out of interest what sort of $ did the rebuilt gearbox run you for?

On your other bits:
- Oil and filter takes minutes to do yourself on one of these since the filter is so easily accessible. Repco etc stock the filters.

- Brakes could just need bled and a full fluid change from standing for a while most likely as the fluid deteriorates with time/moisture etc.

- Ball joints etc may be worth doing when you're looking at the suspension as they made a huge difference on mine, even the ones that didn't look too bad visually and weren't showing much play by hand were completely knackered when i got them off the car. Most of the bits are pretty easy to get hold of and not overly expensive. Have a good check of the bushes too and bits like the rear diff mount as if they have not been replaced then chances are that could be getting a touch on the rotten side by now. Shock bushes are the other ones to have a look at, most P6s i have seen have shot front shock top bushes as a result of them having the pin through the wrong hole in the mount. Nice and easy/cheap to fix and makes a big difference to how the car feels having it properly bushed.

Cheers,

Al

Ps. May well be able to bring my P6 out to meet yours in the not overly distant future, looking at getting a few jobs finished off on it over xmas and then getting a RWC done on it early in the new year.
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Hey Al

Yeah I've got erm, about 4 bottles of oil as I found a stash that my grandfather had hidden away. Already got a new Ryco filter to go on as well. I just don't have the space at home as I have my wagon, my motorcycle, two Mazda 3's, a Pajero and Dad's work Patrol all parked around the place. One family has nearly filled up a court with cars. :LOL: It's like that scene from "the castle"...!

Brakes and steering/suspension are something I want to get done asap. I've ordered a stack of parts for the wagon from the states in the last year as the dollar was strong, I thought I'd do the same for the Rover but I can't find any decent shock absorbers (like Koni's or KYBs) online.

If you're working on yours over xmas, I better get insurance and the rego changed over to my name in the new year then!
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

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Gratuitous photo opportunity.
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

Ok, took the car out again and it definately has a noise coming from around the transmission area. Before I go back to the transmission shop, something is telling me to get the speedometer/odometer checked out as the kilometers travelled figure is not rolling over like it should as the car is moving.
Anyone know a good gauge place in Melbourne?
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

If you're getting a weird noise I'd suspect the cable may be disconnected and spinning against something....
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

So a friend of mine stopped past today, raining again (it is summer here mind you, its meant to be 40 deg. outside, not 10 with rain) so we only went for a short drive. He thinks the noise I can hear is wheel bearing or maybe diff noise.

BUT when I went to start the car today, battery was completely dead. Gave it a quick charge to get it started, pulled into the driveway when we got back home, my friend taps the Amp gauge. I hadn't noticed but it was reading 0, so it looks like the alternator has given up the ghost. :?
 
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I supposed the alternator could also be giving you the noise, especially if the bearings are badly worn.
 
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before you bin the alternator put a meter across the battery as my ammeter also would indicate that its not charging but its fine,rich
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

It was raining so I haven't tested the alternator yet, but my uncle has an auto elec business (this was his dad's car) so guess who'll be getting the job of sorting it? :mrgreen:
 
SU filters

So I was thinking of two filters for the SU's, much like this

http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... =&Id=24914

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Do K&N make something like this? I've seen their big cone shaped filters, which I think look out of place.

I'm also guessing that something like the SU chrome filter assembly and inner filter will mean a larger jet is needed since potentially more air will be flowing through the SU?

Also - more stories are coming out about this car now - had the car out the front of my Dad's house the other day, neighbour comes over and starts telling me that his dad was a spraypainter and painted these back when they were new. Then we start talking about cars etc, my Dad mentions that the Carb linkages for this car broke/wore out etc, so Dad took the linkages into his work, got a machinist to make new linkages, etc etc. I've yet to pull anything off yet to see if it's true or not but it sounded like a good story! :LOL:
 
Re: The inheiritance. 1978 P6B

I fitted SU filters to Bruiser (four pot of course). I haven't changed the needles & despite not yet having had a proper carb set-up, she runs very well.
They also sound very nice when you hold on to a gear:

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