**UPDATED**Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

This is my project, which I wont get round to starting for a while due to other projects in line before it. It looks pretty rough as you can see, it needs plenty of welding, and the paint is flat and dull and the lacquer has peeled in many places. The good thing is that it has an excellent history file with it, which fills an A4 folder.
It has had thousands spent on it over the years, including an expensive full engine rebuild. It is on the button and runs beautifully. It also has most of its MOT's and tax discs dating back to the late 80's, along with its original service passport still in its clear protective sleeve, and all history stamped up by main dealers over the years. It also came with all original handbooks, and original sales receipt to its very first owner! Despite its current appearance, clearly this car has been well loved over the years by someone and it is its extensive history that drew me to it being a good base for a project.
The keys have a P6 owners club key fob on there, so I will be very surprised if no one on here knows of this car. I have yet to fully inspect the car all over, but initial checks have told me this...Original colour was Tobacco leaf, evident when I lifted the damp carpets out exposing the inner sills. I had thought prior to this that it's colour was originally the burgundy it is in now, but clearly not. Either way, it must have been painted burgundy many years ago though, as the paint is showing a hard life of use...

Other initial checks show the brakes dont work, unless you pump the pedal a few times first to get any pressure, so I will be checking the usual things like looking for a hose swelling when brake pedal depressed first, followed by servo and master cylinder checks.

I am still making a 'wish list' of parts needed for its restoration, and have sourced most of the replacement panels needed (bar a good solid drivers door if anyone has one??) Once I have all the needed parts, I should then be about ready to strip the panels off and inspect the shell, and go from there.

The interior has dark red carpets and beige seats with ET head rests. I am unsure at the moment what colour it will be once completed, but I am swayed towards black with red interior. I would have kept it burgundy had that been its original colour, but since finding out it was originally Tobacco Leaf, I am not too keen on that colour personally, so I will not be going down the road of originality with this car now. The door cards also show signs of a colour change at some point, evident by some colour wear on the drivers armrest. The boot came full of spares along with its original radio, as a CD player has been fitted at some point. One of the cars 'querks' is that it cannot be started in the 'P' position, only in 'N'. It has obviously been this way for years, as an old piece of card came with it explaining how to start it. I will look at that problem in due course. Another little issue is that sometimes the electric fuel pump which has been fitted does not prime, but once you press the fuse lightly, it kicks in. This can only be a minor connection problem, and will be sorted asap.

Thats it for now, I would be very grateful if anyone recognise's this car and can tell me any of the history of this car, who owned it etc, and if anyone has any links to old photos of it, that would be great! :D

Thank you...

Liam
 

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Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

Don't know the car but really looking forward to the updates on it.

Great stuff
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

Classicmemories said:
The keys have a P6 owners club key fob on there

Most P6 keys have one of those club fobs attached to them!

Looks like a good project though, will you be keeping the colour as it is?

Classicmemories said:
One of the cars 'querks' is that it cannot be started in the 'P' position, only in 'N'. It has obviously been this way for years, as an old piece of card came with it explaining how to start it. I will look at that problem in due course.

That's the starter inhibitor which needs adjusting, it's on the side of the transmission casing.
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

An excellent project! The only time I've seen it is on a computer, first of all when it appeared on ebay, and then on gumtree, for slightly more, a month later. I think it looks like the lacquer has peeled off that paint, so it may have been quite an expensive job, in its day. If it's the car I think it is, it's got a lovely interior, with buckskin leather, and deep red carpets, which look rather sophisticated! Well done for taking it on, and I look forward to seeing the updates on it.
 
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Johnny E said:
Don't know the car but really looking forward to the updates on it.

Great stuff
Thank you, I cant wait to get started on it to be honest, so the sooner I get my others finished off, the better! :D
 
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testrider said:
Classicmemories said:
The keys have a P6 owners club key fob on there

Most P6 keys have one of those club fobs attached to them!

Looks like a good project though, will you be keeping the colour as it is?


Classicmemories said:
One of the cars 'querks' is that it cannot be started in the 'P' position, only in 'N'. It has obviously been this way for years, as an old piece of card came with it explaining how to start it. I will look at that problem in due course.

That's the starter inhibitor which needs adjusting, it's on the side of the transmission casing.


Well, initially I had believed the burgundy was its original colour, so I had planned on keeping it. If a car I buy is original, then I personally wont mess with its originality, and will always keep it as it is, in terms of original colour, interior, spec etc, but if I buy a car that has already been altered from its factory spec, then I am no longer that bothered about keeping it factory, as it has already passed that point. With this car, it is the latter, having lifted the carpets and seeing it was originally Tobacco Leaf. I also believe the carpets had been replaced at some point to a deep red colour to match the exterior colour, as to my knowledge (and I am no expert at all on P6's, I am still very new to them) but I dont believe Tobacco Leaf was offered with deep red carpets as an option? So again, the interior is not factory anymore either. Since finding out the burgundy is not its original colour, I am unsure what route to take, and have a few ideas floating around my head at the moment. I am thinking of black, and getting the interior retrimmed in red leather, BUT.... today, I have been thinking of going all black, with a black vinyl roof, and black leather interior and black carpet, with chrome and black Rostyles! I think the all black will give it an aggressive stance, and look different to many others, so I am favouring that option today! :D


Re the starter inhibitor: Thats great, thank you very much for that, I will take a look at it. I am surprised it is something that has not been rectified already, being as so much money has been spent on this car, certainly in terms of mechanicals anyway, and judging by the old starting instructions on a piece of cardboard, which came with the car, it looks as though it has been started that way for years! Unless it has deliberately been left that way, as an extra anti theft deterrent?! Who knows...either way, I will get it rectified...I will update once I have had a chance to look at it.
 
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FrazzleTC said:
An excellent project! The only time I've seen it is on a computer, first of all when it appeared on ebay, and then on gumtree, for slightly more, a month later. I think it looks like the lacquer has peeled off that paint, so it may have been quite an expensive job, in its day. If it's the car I think it is, it's got a lovely interior, with buckskin leather, and deep red carpets, which look rather sophisticated! Well done for taking it on, and I look forward to seeing the updates on it.

Hi Frazzle, yes mate it is the same car. The guy had it on ebay, and also on Gumtree for a bit more. He still had it on Gumtree a month after I bought it, so guess he forgot to remove it. Yes, the lacquer is peeling all over, with none left on the roof, and peeling badly on the bonnet and boot lid. It is amazing actually how much of the lacquer has literally washed off the car since January with the sheer volume and pressure of rain we have had! It does have the buckskin interior (with ET head rests) and deep red carpets, which are excellent heavy duty quality, though now a bit worn in places, and dampness has not helped them any, with water getting into both footwells. I will no doubt replace all the interior anyway once I have settled on what colour combination I like best, though it does still look good in its current colour combination too. I would imagine that when first done, the car must have looked stunning before the years took its toll on it.
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

Looks to be good base but if it is damp I would recommend detaching any perishable items and moving them into dry storage until it is watertight.

For example, ET headrests can be worth a fair amount on their own - if you are not yet decided on interior colour they could finance parts in the near term.

If the electric pump fuse holder is separate from the box it may be easier to fit a new inline holder rather than refurbing and old one, especially if it has a brittle plastic case. On a related note, I would recommend checking the fuse box and replacing old fuses, cleaning/sanding the connections etc but I am sure you have that well in hand.

Good luck with the project!
 
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Spinakerr said:
Looks to be good base but if it is damp I would recommend detaching any perishable items and moving them into dry storage until it is watertight.

For example, ET headrests can be worth a fair amount on their own - if you are not yet decided on interior colour they could finance parts in the near term.

If the electric pump fuse holder is separate from the box it may be easier to fit a new inline holder rather than refurbing and old one, especially if it has a brittle plastic case. On a related note, I would recommend checking the fuse box and replacing old fuses, cleaning/sanding the connections etc but I am sure you have that well in hand.

Good luck with the project!

It is only the carpet that is damp, but that has now been removed, and the car is now bone dry. The dehumidifier took a lot of water out of the car, I couldnt believe how much! The small oil heater works really well in conjunction with the dehumidifier as well. It is something I have always done with any old car that is damp, the interior gets dried slowly, over several days, whilst the moisture gets sucked out of it at the same time. Re the ET head rests, yes, I understand they are sought after, but im not too keen on them myself so far, so I may sell them anyway, along with the rest of the buckskin interior, once I decide what colour option I will go with.
The car is a good base as you say, certainly mechanically anyway, but I have not been able to leave the car alone to await its turn in the restoration queue, so have been trying to at least have a look and a poke the last few days, to see how solid it is, and get an idea of what awaits me when I do get round to it. I have been fortunate enough to be introduced to a P6 specialist in my area, who restores P6's as well as other classics, and he has been very helpful so far with his knowledge on one of my other P6's. He is coming to mine at the weekend to check this car over for me, and give me a better idea what is involved, time frame, costs etc, as he will be the one doing all the bodywork for me.

I have started doing a few small jobs on the car, like flushing the cooling system, as it was a bit dirty to say the least, so I have removed the overflow bottle, to get the years of stains out of it. I will continue to flush it all through, heating system as well of course until the water eventually runs clear. I will then get round to looking at the loose connection in the fuse box. The best way to get to know your car of course, is to work on it, and clean it, so I am slowly becoming acquainted with it, and will work my way through the whole car over the next few weeks, but without getting too involved with any of it!.......Yet! :)
 
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I won this motor car on eBay back in 2009 and the owner of the car, a nice chap, a musician from York if I recall, set off to Lake View Garage for the vehicle to be inspected - if it was found to be as described, I would have taken the car.

Sadly the car was not quite ready to be sold and it didn't make it over the Pennines - it failed to proceed on the A1 due to half-shaft failure and I declined the opportunity to buy the vehicle even with a £500 discount on the agreed price.

Good luck with the project - it looks like a nice car. If I remember correctly it was described as a Jaguar colour done by Mr Annable.
 
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ethelred said:
I won this motor car on eBay back in 2009 and the owner of the car, a nice chap, a musician from York if I recall, set off to Lake View Garage for the vehicle to be inspected - if it was found to be as described, I would have taken the car.

Sadly the car was not quite ready to be sold and it didn't make it over the Pennines - it failed to proceed on the A1 due to half-shaft failure and I declined the opportunity to buy the vehicle even with a £500 discount on the agreed price.

Good luck with the project - it looks like a nice car. If I remember correctly it was described as a Jaguar colour done by Mr Annable.

Thank you very much for that very interesting information! :) That explains the receipt for all that work done on the parts you mentioned, plus other parts. Yes, it was a Mr Annable, his name is on many receipts with the car. Interesting re the colour too, I am still in two minds as to keep that colour or not..... I appreciate the info from you.
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

From looking back at my photo archive I can tell you that LRE525K broke down on the A1 on 13/06/2009.

That was not a good day to be a Rover P6 or a P6 owner for within minutes of receiving the apologetic phone call from Peter R, LRE's owner at the time, my mechanic's wife at the time nonchalantly bounded down the steps at Lake View Garage, hopped into her Suzuki Vitara and reversed straight into poor Ethel.

I suppose if you are going to do that kind of thing, having a hubby who is a professional car restorer certainly helps - although it cost them their summer holiday.

LRE525K certainly looked a lot smarter in the eBay photos but Peter made it very clear that this car was never going to be as nice as the car I already owned, ETR290L but it clearly has a lot of history and has been well used in the last 5 years, which is a good thing.

May I suggest that you repaint it in burgundy - even though it is not an original colour I think it is attractive and also, do I recall seeing photos of rocker covers to match?
 

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Thank you for that mate. Glad you got Ethel sorted, you must have been gutted when it happened though! I cant imagine he was too happy telling you either. You are right in that the rocker covers have been painted to match. The Rover logo and in between the channels on the rockers have been painted to match. The colour is very nice, its just a shame whoever painted it, lacquered it after the paint had fully dried! Otherwise it might still look very good today, and the lacquer probably would not have lifted as much as it has.
I had a visit today from a friend in his particularly nice example of a 3500S which he is selling, and I was immediately in love! I am now in a dilemma, sell my 3 x P6 projects, and buy his one, on the road ready to enjoy, or stick with my projects...hmmm, now lets see :? ....bit of a no brainer really! Sun shining this weekend, and I could be out in a P6 enjoying it, or stuck at home working on projects, including 2 other makes of cars, already three quarters restored, but yet to be finished before I even begin to tackle the P6 project! The trip out in it tomorrow will no doubt make the decision obvious, so I will decide then, but if it drives as well as it looks, then..... :wink:
 
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What make is the dehumidifier you use?

I need to do this before transferring the interior of a car that has sat outside for a year, albeit covered up into my new shell.
 
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Classicmemories said:
I had a visit today from a friend in his particularly nice example of a 3500S which he is selling, and I was immediately in love! I am now in a dilemma, sell my 3 x P6 projects, and buy his one, on the road ready to enjoy, or stick with my projects...hmmm, now lets see :? ....bit of a no brainer really! Sun shining this weekend, and I could be out in a P6 enjoying it, or stuck at home working on projects, including 2 other makes of cars, already three quarters restored, but yet to be finished before I even begin to tackle the P6 project! The trip out in it tomorrow will no doubt make the decision obvious, so I will decide then, but if it drives as well as it looks, then..... :wink:

It would seem the sensible way to go Liam!
I am in all day and you are welcome to pop over whilst on your test drive!
Pop it up on my ramp for a looksee underneath if you wish!
Did the P6 guy turn up to look at what needs doing on yours?
Dave
 
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Thanks Dave, I will do that mate. Yes the other guy showed up as well and had a good look over it. He will come back to me with a figure to get all the bodywork done and a respray, but if all is good with this other one tomorrow, then I may not need to spend out on that now.....
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

Will have to pop out to buy my lamb steak and roasters at some point!
What sort of eta do you expect?
 
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Pilkie said:
Will have to pop out to buy my lamb steak and roasters at some point!
What sort of eta do you expect?

Not sure bud, will call first to make sure you are in.
 
Re: Series 2 V8 project, anyone seen it before??

No probs,if popped out,I will only be 15 mins at most!
 
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