Wanted front hubs or strut assemblies

[J1MMY]

As per title, don't mind either. Initially for redrilling to use difference stud sizes and a slightly different stud pattern but the strut would be useful for a cutting and shutting experiment to lower the car.

For a '70 3500 (not sure if there are differences?)

Am in Bristol but will travel a sensible distances or pay for sending if money is right, blah blah blah :wink:

Cheers.

 

[harveyp6]

All the struts on Girling braked cars are the same, Dunlop ones are different, as are the hubs on Dunlop equipped cars IIRC. On the Girling cars the hubs are different on the 2000/2200 to the V8 and all three have different sized discs.

 

[J1MMY]

Thanks for the info - will make the appropriate checks on mine.

Is it a similar story for the rears?

 

[devilsplaymate]

J1mmy.

I am thinking along the same lines as you, are you going to "Trim" the pushrod that goes into the spring?? I am wondering if the push rod unscrews, as there seems to be thread in the hole opposite the push rod. Like you, i am wanting to lower the front of the car a couple of inches or so as it sits too high for my liking.
If the push rod does unscrew, the thread could be possibly extended and a lock nut used for locking the push rod in various positions??
Please would you keep me posted on your progress??
Thanks
Glen. :twisted:

 

[J1MMY]

I've got a couple of ideas, I have read what you are suggesting in some other threads. Also wondering about cutting some of the section out of the vertical arm and sleeving it so it will achieve the drop in height that way. I have no doubt that it will upset the camber but then so will cutting or fitting shorter springs. At 300 a set for new springs I am keen to look into alternatives such as mentioned above and adjustable bottom arms. Granted, development of that sort of thing will be expensive.

Of course....it may be worth measuring up an IFS of some variety and grafting that in... :?:

Anyways, it's not much more than ideas atm and I don't want to pull the rover off the road just yet (in fact I can't, no time!) but I would like to gather duplicates so that if anything goes to pot I still have a road going car once things get underway. Initially I just want some hubs to redrill for some different wheels... :wink:

 

[chrisyork]

Just before anybody rushes off and tries to put a double wishbone or McPherson set up on the front of their P6.... The front inner wings on the P6 are unusually weak. This is partly because Rover actually designed progressive crash deformation into the P6 and partly because the suspension loads are elsewhere (like on the bulkhead) so there isn't the need for strength in this area.

The consequences of this show up in use even in fairly normal circumstances. There is an established failure mode on power steered cars in Australia (more stress on the inner wings due to people being able to wind the steering at standstill? Plus use on dirt roads?) of fractures in the front chassis leg. Police spec cars with heavy duty shock absorbers in the UK suffered from fractures around the bottom damper mounting and there was a factory mod - known colloquially as "hockey sticks" - which can be found in the spares manual, part no JRC 1109 page 14/70.

The "hockey sticks" are available from Colin Gould and from Alan Ramsbottom. The Rover Car Club of Australia developed a properly engineered and approved strengthening kit for the chassis rail and inner wing, including a slightly different version of the "hockey sticks", and this is available in the UK also from Alan Ramsbottom. Finally Alan has a strengthened bottom shock absorber mounting, with a proper lock nut fixing instead of the washer and split pin, which can be used either alone or with the strengthening kit.

People who have driven cars with the inner wing strengthening kit fitted tell me that the steering response is noticeably sharpened. Since the cause of the fractures the kit responds to will be flex in the area of the of the suspension pick ups, this does make engineering sense.

Lastly for those seeking to lower the front of the car. Whether you do it by fitting shorter springs or by shortening the pushrod, the net effect will be to reduce suspension travel. Whilst this is not a problem with very stiff springs on a smooth race track (track days etc), in the real world you will compromise ride and/or make the car much more susceptable to being directionally unsettled by bumps.

Hope the above isn't read as a "keep off" - the intention is to provide all the information to allow you to make a judgement on what to do!

Chris

 

[J1MMY]

No harm in being the voice of reason Chris. :wink:

CERTAINLY no plans on retrfitting a mcpherson strut. Would prefer to work with what is there or use an IFS (i.e jag, mustang II) but IFS is certainly pie in the sky at the minute. I have no issues with losing some suspension travel, there is acres of it on these compared to other cars I have owned and won't be aiming for tarmac trimming .