classicalgreen
Active Member
I think there is a growing pressure to have mandatory tests and all road going vehicles. however as we still under EU directives ( hence MOT's being dropped) and for for seeable future. we may need to look to insurance companies to simply offer a 2 tier system .aside from noting any unroadworthy car may in any case make insurance invalid.. an annual check on basics .brakes . wire function. lights.horn. and suspension.steering and body structure would be good for road safety. ( not taking my granddaughter out in any car with no MOT!)
agree that some modifications especially for safety .eg modern tyres . brakes . ( possibly emissions) ought not necessarily change class of vehicle . some parts will and are becoming rare if not impossible to source.
though my own classic car spends very little time on road ( under a 100o miles a year at moment) .never goes out in rain.snow or storms etc and soaks up huge amount of time and money ( wife is considering using flame thrower on it soon) it is still a 40 year old piece of machinery and needs to be driven carefully.( I assume mine is made of glass and everybody on road -aside marked traffic police car- is a complete idiot and will try and ram me at some stage or simply fail to notice I am on road .
can see there are several argument each way. data for old cars incidents per miles versus modern etc . however. if we could arrange maybe with local garages ? insurance companies ? etc for classic -historic tester certification. thus aware things such as windscreen wipers on curved windows will NOT give 100% wipe action on a scree. common sense and ability of tester to assess state of a vehicle .wiring . corrosion.leaks etc can hopefully have a cheaper MOT test ? though whom can really argue with say under a pound a week to have a yearly check carried out.
I do enjoy all forms of cars. as do I think vast majority .not only owners . custom cars. hot rods. american. vintage . historic and classic .all have own appeal. would be surprised if our government still ignore MOT tests when we leave EU . however it cab create way round it but with current EU so anti UK unlikely will get hands untied soon.
possible other ways can be found by car clubs? listing members with without MOT . giving stickers for screen out replacing old license disc with a sort pf copy but saying licenced for road use by ..name of club' so we can see whom has not MOT . thus social pressures can be applied too. my car for example has brake fluid on top of rear axle .normally instant fail . as assumed leak..however tester saw car .its condition .master cylinder full. so simply asked question before issuing an MOT. had i work don brake system.( he didn't mention leak) I said yes have bled brakes though rear was a bugger as on top of diff. he then asked d when dod i do that? i said yesterday as that was true .then I asked if there was a problem fearing brakes not up to scratch. he laughed .said we wondered about the fluid on top of diff casing. but with a full reservoir and many application of pedal .we were unable to get any more fluid or find a leak. seems i has simply not mopped that area. so great testing guys. just imagine if i had a leak ..say not tightened billed valve fully?
having a really heavy car and suddenly finding no brakes ? heart stopping moments and potential life stopping too. diatribe over .have a nice day all
agree that some modifications especially for safety .eg modern tyres . brakes . ( possibly emissions) ought not necessarily change class of vehicle . some parts will and are becoming rare if not impossible to source.
though my own classic car spends very little time on road ( under a 100o miles a year at moment) .never goes out in rain.snow or storms etc and soaks up huge amount of time and money ( wife is considering using flame thrower on it soon) it is still a 40 year old piece of machinery and needs to be driven carefully.( I assume mine is made of glass and everybody on road -aside marked traffic police car- is a complete idiot and will try and ram me at some stage or simply fail to notice I am on road .
can see there are several argument each way. data for old cars incidents per miles versus modern etc . however. if we could arrange maybe with local garages ? insurance companies ? etc for classic -historic tester certification. thus aware things such as windscreen wipers on curved windows will NOT give 100% wipe action on a scree. common sense and ability of tester to assess state of a vehicle .wiring . corrosion.leaks etc can hopefully have a cheaper MOT test ? though whom can really argue with say under a pound a week to have a yearly check carried out.
I do enjoy all forms of cars. as do I think vast majority .not only owners . custom cars. hot rods. american. vintage . historic and classic .all have own appeal. would be surprised if our government still ignore MOT tests when we leave EU . however it cab create way round it but with current EU so anti UK unlikely will get hands untied soon.
possible other ways can be found by car clubs? listing members with without MOT . giving stickers for screen out replacing old license disc with a sort pf copy but saying licenced for road use by ..name of club' so we can see whom has not MOT . thus social pressures can be applied too. my car for example has brake fluid on top of rear axle .normally instant fail . as assumed leak..however tester saw car .its condition .master cylinder full. so simply asked question before issuing an MOT. had i work don brake system.( he didn't mention leak) I said yes have bled brakes though rear was a bugger as on top of diff. he then asked d when dod i do that? i said yesterday as that was true .then I asked if there was a problem fearing brakes not up to scratch. he laughed .said we wondered about the fluid on top of diff casing. but with a full reservoir and many application of pedal .we were unable to get any more fluid or find a leak. seems i has simply not mopped that area. so great testing guys. just imagine if i had a leak ..say not tightened billed valve fully?
having a really heavy car and suddenly finding no brakes ? heart stopping moments and potential life stopping too. diatribe over .have a nice day all