My 2000SC Auto daily driver

I suspect that because the car's been getting lots of use, and getting lots of heat into it, that any crud in the waterways left from the engine's previous life, has been dislodged. I've flushed, and reverse-flushed the system, and that's made a big difference. Once it's all clear, I'll put fresh coolant into it.

In other news, today, after a long run, I noticed a metallic-sounding rattle, which seems to be from around the carb. I've checked for anything loose, and, I really can't see anything. I'll need to investigate further on Sunday, when I've got some spare time. In the meantime, I'll try to avoid using it, just in case.
 
That'll be that canister shaped bit of tin that sticks into the inlet manifold, then. Dave had a similar event with his 2000 I seem to remember. Worth checking his thread.

Chris
 
Oh Yeah Mr Frazz
Great Pics
I reckon certain colours look better and are suited to different environments .
Yellows incl Almond [ suck it up nay sayers ] add to the natural colours of the green country side and really stand out .
B , R , G .are more at home in the city .
My thoughts
gerald
 
chrisyork said:
That'll be that canister shaped bit of tin that sticks into the inlet manifold, then. Dave had a similar event with his 2000 I seem to remember. Worth checking his thread.

Chris

Yes definitely worth a look. Mine was a little piece of the filter holder that had broken off and was wedged under the piston causing the engine to run rich.

Alternatively it could be the heat shield loose and rattling or the exhaust manifold.

Dave
 
:D Always good to get an update Fraser and glad your car is running well despite the odd little problem.

As usual, I am trying to guess were the pic's were taken. No idea about the one with the hay bails but wondered if the ones next to the river is the River Dee near Kirkudbright?
 
Dave3066 said:
chrisyork said:
That'll be that canister shaped bit of tin that sticks into the inlet manifold, then. Dave had a similar event with his 2000 I seem to remember. Worth checking his thread.

Chris

Yes definitely worth a look. Mine was a little piece of the filter holder that had broken off and was wedged under the piston causing the engine to run rich.

Alternatively it could be the heat shield loose and rattling or the exhaust manifold.

Dave
This had happened with my previous engine, so I thought it might be a cause. I'll have the carb off tomorrow, and check it over. I'll double check for anything which is a little loose.

Thanks Steve! The photos next to the Sea are just outside Kirkcudbright, as you said, where the Dee meets the sea. Lovely round there, and working in Kirkcudbright over the summer is superb! The other photo is taken near Carrick, which is along the coast from Borgue, near Cream O' Galloway.
 
A bit of an update on the 2000. The rattle has been solved, and as was the case with my previous engine, the large can shaped piece into the inlet was cracked, and rattling aimlessly! Seems a rather stupid piece of design, as the car runs so well again now that it has been removed!

Now, a bit of a fleet update. I've not had the chance to post on here as often as I'd like of late, as I've been acquiring some slightly unloved MG/Rover products along the way. In so doing, I've got no fewer than five cars in my name, at present. :oops:
While looking for cars locally, ideally of a classic persuasion, I stumbled across an advert for a 2003 MG ZT 180 automatic (2.5 V6) with 'headgasket failure'. The advert depicted a rather sad-looking example of a Solar Red ZT, with a dire description, and four photos, two of which illustrating the same dented front wing. I bid on the car, up to £320, with the intention of buying it to strip a few desirable bits off, make a profit, and then weigh in, but I was outbid, and though that was the end of the matter. A few days later, the car reappeared on ebay, so I messaged the seller, to view the car. He got back to me quickly, and I went to see the car straight after work that evening. The car was sitting in a corner of a public car park, and there was moss growing around most of the exterior trim, it was full of dog hairs, and was losing colossal amounts of water. There was mayonnaise around the oil-filler cap, but nothing on the dipstick, and no big bubbles when the car was revved with the expansion cap removed. A quick look around the car showed that it had brand new rear springs, new front tyres, new front brake discs, a new exhaust, and, it transpired, new front wishbones too, along with recent rear tyres. I took the gamble, and said I'd collect it the next day, complete with a few gallons of water, to move it the three miles home. I got a week's temporary insurance cover, and was able to set about moving the car. It was also taxed, and MOT'd for a few months.
I filled the car with water as best I could, and set about driving it home with as few delays as possible. By the time I got to my destination, it was getting warm, but was nothing like boiling.
After dinner, we put the car onto ramps, removed the undertray, and the source of the leak was immediately apparent. The metal pipes carrying coolant to the oil cooler had rotted away, leading to huge coolant loss. The next day, new pipes were sourced, and fitted. We got the car up to temperature, while stationary, and all seemed well, until we got out on the road, and it overheated, according to the gauge, losing a lot of coolant in the process. At this point, we weren't too hopeful. However, since I already owned a 75, despite the probability being fairly remote, we decided to borrow it's expansion tank cap, and see how it went. Well, it lost no more coolant! The temperature gauge fluctuated for around 30 miles, as it was slowly bled through, and soon, it was running entirely in the safe zone, with superb levels of performance, and no smoke whatsoever.
Since then, the car has covered over 1000 miles, and in that time, not consumed a drop of coolant, or oil! In addition to the £23 spent on the pipes, and a new expansion cap, I've spent £33 on a new wing, and £59 on a new battery, and 99p on a new MG badge. The purchase price for the car was £270, and it's got a huge service history. I'm delighted with the way it's cleaned up, and hopefully it'll be a fun car for a spell! Here are some photos of how my £270 car looks now!





After this, I was hunting some bits and pieces on gumtree when I stumbled across an advert for a very very early, T-registered Rover 75. It's a 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE which means that it has electric heated leather seats, satellite navigation, cruise control, an electric sunblind, CD autochanger, climate control, traction control, heated washer jets, a walnut steering wheel, and curtain airbags. It's very unusual in be T-registered, has had the three cambelts done in the last 3000 miles, has had a new inlet manifold, air-conditioning regassed, new brake pipes, a new exhaust, and a variety of other bits, all with ridiculous main dealer bills to prove. It was similarly cheap to the ZT, and given the history, the spec, and the fact that it was taxed until the end of March 2014, I felt it worthwhile as a purchase, because the owners were only selling due to an airbag light being on, which they thought would be hugely expensive to repair (I had the light off by the time I'd finished viewing it). It's by no means perfect, and isn't as tidy as the ZT, but will give me something a bit different to try, and, eventually sell back on. I collect it on Monday, and will be able to get better photos then!



My apologies for going slightly off-topic, but I thought some people might find these curious! Normal P6-related service will soon be resumed. I've been using the 2000 on an almost daily basis again this week, since the repair!
 
No apologies necessary, The 95 and Mg whilst of Germanic origin are really the only true successors to the P6 in my mind, embodying the styling and aesthetic in the exterior and interior, never mind that the mechanicals didn't live up to their predecessors the p6. It is still a fine car that will make an excellent classic in years to come, provided the electronics will stand the test of time ( BMW Duh ! don't think so).

Graeme
 
Was the £33 wing ready painted ? You have to feel sorry for the previous owners of these cars who have spent loads of money on them before giving up and virtually giving them away
 
DaveHerns said:
Was the £33 wing ready painted ? You have to feel sorry for the previous owners of these cars who have spent loads of money on them before giving up and virtually giving them away
Yes Dave, that was from a car the same colour, including postage to my door! It's a shame, but people have such a downer on Rovers that it's very easy to pick up lovely cars for peanuts!
 
Hi Fraser,

They look great don't they! You certainly have an eye for a bargain. One point that I had read about with Rover 75 was the necessity to replace the timing belts (if I have it correct, there are two) every 60,000km (36,000 Miles).

Rover had a 4.6 litre V8 version of the 75 too, but not the Rover V8, a 4.6 litre Ford V8 from the Mustang, Rover being in Ford ownership at that time.

Ron.
 
Yes the V8 version is what I had hoped to see when Fraser posted his red pic, I so seriously desire one of those, even if it were to only be a garage Queen! All of the elegance and styling with less of the mechanical motor problems associated with the 2.5, though some of the versions of the V8 are a little tasteless with carbon fibre this and that and leather less wanted.

Graeme
 
Rover had a 4.6 litre V8 version of the 75 too, but not the Rover V8, a 4.6 litre Ford V8 from the Mustang, Rover being in Ford ownership at that time.

This was after Rover were cast adrift from BMW. They brought it in as a crate engine. They werent owned by ford.

The MG version is the version with modern looking materials( the zt 260 ) and the rover version is roverish. Unfortunately they're post project drive. The best built 75s are 2002-2003 before they started the cheapening.

There arent many in existence. They're specially engineered as rear wheel drive too.
 
Well done Fraser. The ZT looks to be in very nice condition. Was the engine bay that clean when you got it? I suppose that in this day and age there are far fewer people who will have any idea as to how to go about diagnosing/sorting their car issues. So, when the car gets to a certain age, the value of the car versus huge garage bills means they just want to get shot of them for a low price? Additionally, there is the convenience factor. Where, it is so easy to great credit to buy new cars (and of course this is what the manufacturers/dealers want), people just can't be bothered with the hassle or risk of older cars. All this to your advantage sir - who dares wins :!:

I must be getting old, as I like the interior of the SE better but do like the exterior looks and engine of the ZT.

You will be able to open your own Rover showroom soon :D . After you have sold one or two, you could use the cash to book some psychiatric sessions for your 75CPD (that's 75 Compulsory Purchase Disorder) :LOL: .
 
Does the ZT 2.5 have the same revised suspension and steering as the ZT 260? Reading some reviews suggest that that these are even better than the MGF's for handling.


Graeme
 
Thanks for all of thepositive comments! The gold 75 and the ZT both have the same engine: 2.5 V6 with 180 bhp. The ZT rides a good bit harder than the 75, but performance wise they're equally quick. The ZT certainly handles very well indeed with lots of grip, and nice steering. The 75 handles well too but is generally floatier. The V6's cambelts have 90,000 intervals. The engines are so smooth, sound delightful, and in the 75 are very reliable. The 800's early development version of the engine was highly problematic though! 75s are much better, generally than most people realise, particularly with the prices they command! I would like a 75V8 at some stage but the engine is primative and I'd rather have a nice P6B and 75 v6 with the change.
 
great bargain there.

I liked the MG ZT styling but not so keen on the 75. I got one of the facelift 1.8 75s on hire but wasn't very keen a common Rover thing seemed to be that the 5th gear could have been tweaked for a lower RPM at motorway speeds I was always looking for a 6th gear. How does the V6 auto go what is the RPM at 70 MPH?

Colin
 
from memory the v6 auto was very smooth and quiet at speed. The engine is pretty inaudible unless pushed... revs i dont remember though.
 
arthuy said:
great bargain there.

I liked the MG ZT styling but not so keen on the 75. I got one of the facelift 1.8 75s on hire but wasn't very keen a common Rover thing seemed to be that the 5th gear could have been tweaked for a lower RPM at motorway speeds I was always looking for a 6th gear. How does the V6 auto go what is the RPM at 70 MPH?

Colin

Cheers Colin!
The 2.0 V6 at 70 is doing just over 3k RPM, with the manual, but the 2.5 with the auto is doing 2600 or so at 70, IIRC, thanks to the torque-convertor lock-up. I'll let you know for certain next time. I wouldn't bother with a 1.8, as they're carrying a lot of car with not much power, and the 1.8 Turbos while faster, are the least reliable of all. The 2.5 V6 is probably the sweet spot of the range, and effortlessly smooth, particularly with the auto, and though diesels are very good, they command an awful lot more money. 75 V6s make great cheap transport, and I can't think of anything else for the money which is quite as comfortable. Most bits can be acquired very cheaply, and they don't seem to rust to any extent. Trim is durable, and as long as you keep an eye on a few well-known issues, then you'll have no real trouble!
As Rich says, the V6 is very quiet indeed, if the car has a decent exhaust fitted. Some of the aftermarket ones are awful though. It's not terribly torquey, but it's quite revvy, and when it is heard, sounds great!

Steve, I must confess that the ZT was nowhere near as clean as that under the bonnet when I bought it, but it's cleaned up quite nicely!
 
Back
Top