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8866nk

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i got a parking ticket today even though i had one displayed.
the ticket said it wasn't displayed correctly but it was fine and in view.
its a private parking firm operating in a shopping precinct car park and the fine after 7 days is £100, before that its £70.
this seems an hell of a lot of cash for something i haven't actually done but i know it'll be total bumache sorting it out!
i have my ticket luckily and i never noticed the fine ticket until i got home for it was tucked under the bonnet!
the car park if free for 90 mins as long as you get a ticket.
any views or advice anyone?
apart from killing the attendant!
cheers
j
 
AFAIK the ticket is sent to the registered keeper of the car, but that isn't necessarily the person who was driving at the time, so if you weren't the driver, and they will have no way to prove this wasn't the case, then once you tell the Parking Firm this they will ask you who the driver was at the time, but you are not obliged to give them this information as only the Police and Council have the right to ask that and have the authority to demand an answer, not private firms, they can only find out the registered keeper is. From that point onwards they have no way of enforcing the ticket.

I suggest rather that believing me you do a quick bit of "googling" and clarify the above, but from what I remember it's pretty much the way it is.
 
It's a scam,..... see the link the Quattro has put up,... :wink:,.... it'll tell you all you need to know about PPC's and their underhand tricks :evil:
 
Something worth adding to this subject although not directly related is an old scam which seems to be doing the rounds again. A person will go around a car park attaching flyers to all the vehicles advertising some service or other and the cars that they want to steal will have the flyer attached to the rear window under the bidet(rear wiper). The owner comes back to the car starts it and goes to reverse out of the space, notices the flyer and get's out with engine running to remove it from the field of vision and that's when the thieves jump in your car, usually armed just to make sure.
Allegedly many private car parking firms are tipping off thieves about which cars are where working from a list, and although I'm not thinking a P6 would be high up on that alleged list (especially not having a rear wiper), those of you with moderns may have that trouble unfortunately. Best of luck with getting your ticket squashed, if you do have to pay make them bloody work for it. :twisted:
Jon.
 
The rules for parking. the fines , and rights of appeal are not always clear to "Joe Public" which makes the situation somewhat hazardous when individuals take a "hard line " to the situation. -my advice is DON'T. With local authority / council affiliated parking fines you have a right of appeal and/or standard payment time of either 14 or 28 days. If you pay in this time, its as it is on the ticket, whether it be £20, £30, £40 or whatever. If payment is not made within this time schedule, it usually doubles the original figure.If you appeal it must be within the time period stated on the ticket, which is usually the same time period as original payment time, but some areas may differ. The authority accepts your application and holds the original payment till the matter is resolved. If they grant you a win on your appeal , the fine is naturally wavered. If you loose, then they give you 14days (although this may vary) to pay at the original payment, and original figure. After which it doubles, as before.

If, however, you fail to pay and appeal within the guidelines , things get rather expensive. It goes past point of appeal and you end up in the hands of the court, Northampton County Court deals with all parking fines in England and Wales ,and there is a charge fee, who pass it on the registered licensed bailiff companies. An additional fee for a letter, then the first visit to your home, another fee which puts your figure up considerably.The second visit, more so. These charges are regulated by the courts but are nevertheless expensive. Unless there is a clear reason of appeal it often becomes one word against another, no prizes to guess who "usually" wins.

With "private" companies , I don't how these rules differ but I would sincerely follow the guidelines of appeal , do not ignore it, it does not pay.

Best of luck with your appeal
 
I think that the last advice I heard was to pay the fine but write on the cheque and the return paid under protest. That way you will not incur any further fees. you can then appeal to them without admitting to being at fault.

Colin
 
marty said:
With "private" companies , I don't how these rules differ but I would sincerely follow the guidelines of appeal , do not ignore it, it does not pay.

Best of luck with your appeal
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This link should give you a better insight into how PPCs work,..http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=46975


@8866nk,

Would you care to name (and shame)the PPC involved :?:

Ive had a couple of these PPC tickets,and Ive ignored them,along with the paper chain of threatening letters from solicitors,debt collectors and bailiffs,it's bogus and designed to frighten and confuse the "victim" into paying a "fine",

Think yourself lucky that you didn't get clamped,....I did in my local Tescos,my "crime" was to go to the cashpoint before I went shopping,£120 to release,or £320 if the tow truck was called :shock:...... did I pay it,.... did I heck,I phoned my brother while sitting in the car (can't tow it if your sat in it, Health and Safety) and he arrived with a large pair of bolt croppers :D
Once these guys realised I wasn't going to be intimidated or bullied they backed down and released the clamp, :wink:
 
Once these guys realised I wasn't going to be intimidated or bullied they backed down and released the clamp,

Well , you're braver than me

I'm waiting for a ticket for parking in a bay which became residents only at 11AM and I was still there at 11.03 when thr Gestapo came round on their motorbikes
 
A couple of weeks ago my wife received a similar ticket. We both have the "Resident" card so no point to fine us when parked home.

Furthermore the fine sticked to my wife's said that her car was parked in a street never visited!

No problem. I went to the parking offices and I said them that I would be very happy by seeing the picture showing my wife's car illegally parked.

Of course no picture was shown that way. Fine was never received at home (some 60 €).

By the way, you're very lucky. Some streets in England are park-opened just for residents!! NOT HERE!

We always have to deal with strangers to the neighbourhood, market visitors, Health and Care visitors, hairdress visitors, meatmonger customers and so on. I pray for the day that only residents could park in my street!!!

Regards
 
Do not pay this ticket/toilet paper. Do not contact them AT ALL.
Pepipoo will give you all the information you need. As said, it is a scam. PPC's have NO power to demand money from you. The best thing to do is to totally ignore them, there is NO, repeat NO appeal process beyond you trying to appeal & they say "no, you have to pay up." If you contact them they think they've got a live fish on the line & instead of receiving half a dozen begging letter's with scary red chequering on them, you'll get twice that amount. Do not contact them at all, by phone or letter. Just file the letters that will come to you in a drawer for your own reference & to tally up the amount you get before they lose interest in fruitlessly wasting postage charges & move on to someone else. They'll have to pay to get your address from the DVLA too.
If it's a council ticket then do not ignore it. If it is a private company then ignore it at will. Only the court's, police or councils can issue a FINE. All others can only submit a CHARGE which you can choose to pay or not as you see fit & if they call it a fine then they are breaking the law.
 
Hi Willy,
I wish it was a rumour, there's quite a few carjackings and "fishing" key thefts in the east and north london areas too, there was also a bunch of guy's on sports bikes who were trying to box in other riders and the pillion get's off the front bike and steals the other rider's bike. One tried it on me but didn't bet on the fact I'm an ex club racer and dispatch rider on a very tuned GSXR750SRAD, luckily I got away and the North Circular lights were in my favour, and that amongst many other reasons is why I got away from the smoke.
I used to be proud of where I'm from and now I'm ashamed of what goes on there, it really is unbelievable and I don't blame you for questioning it.
Anyway, there's some useful tips on what to do with this parking ticket and I hope that any info that can help 8866NK not to have to pay these horrible parking firms a penny. Once again I wish him luck.
 
restojon said:
Hi Willy,
I wish it was a rumour, there's quite a few carjackings and "fishing" key thefts in the east and north london areas too, there was also a bunch of guy's on sports bikes who were trying to box in other riders and the pillion get's off the front bike and steals the other rider's bike.
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Oh I can quite believe that there are thieves, carjackers and other unpleasant miscreants around, but we'll have to agree to differ over the story of them leaving flyers in the rear window to lure unsuspecting drivers out of their vehicles. That, in my (and Snopes') opinion, is an urban myth and no different to the one about gun toting gang members driving around with their lights out at night, ready to open fire at the first motorist who flashes them, etc.
 
gun toting gang members driving around with their lights out at night, ready to open fire at the first motorist who flashes them, etc.
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That was about South London - Brixton/Clapham
Someone at my last place sent that round as an email to "all company staff" probably to boost his ego and had to send a retraction around within days
 
It is quite strange where these things spring up, and how serious or not people take them. My mother lives in a sheltered housing complex in East London and the Met Police put up official headed notices warning visitors about this exact thing happening, maybe they got fooled too? Having lived in these parts for most of my life I wouldn't put it past the local hoodlums though. I guess it's hard to say unless it happens to you directly, I'll get back to you all after I've been shot to test out the theory :wink:
 
hi guys!
not heard diddly yet but the 7 days aren't up yet.
trying to contact the c.a.b about it but no luck getting them so far!
not responded to the ticket yet re advice on here.
i've had the same sort of thing with mobile phone co's.
twice now i've finished contracts with a phone co and its been a direct debit.a year or so later i get threatening letters saying i owe £9.75 or something silly!
i'm an honest person and the letters worry me rather but i'm told its debt companies who buy up blocks of debts then send out nasty threatening letters!
never any proof of monies owed!
oh well!
we'll se what happens
 
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