Rover 2000sc

Chris86

Chris86

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Hi,

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C512568#

I have noticed this car for sale which is fairly close to me. Don't have any details as yet, but not sure if the interior/exterior colour combination is original. It is difficult to get a good idea of condition from the pictures so not sure if it is fairly priced or not.

Does anyone know this car?

Thoughts appreciated.

Thanks.
 
The interior is boxpleat. For 1971 it would have been flatpleat so I'd bet it's not original. (search for these and it'll become obvious) But the colour (sandalwood) is correct.

It won't affect the value though unless it's a perfect low mileage example. It's less likely a base 2000SC had leather originally so consider it an upgrade.

All things colour related: http://www.ruediger-wicke.de/P6%20produ ... olours.htm

The thing to check is the baseunit. Lift the rear seat cusions and the soudproofing, check the corners of the box section at the far sides and carefully check in and around the rear arches, the d-pillars in the rear door shuts and the top of the rear wings. If they'll let you unbolt the sill covers (its easy to do). Similarly the bottom of the A pillars. If these are sound then you're 80% of the way there.

It's utterly impossible to value these without a good dig around and a drive. However this is towards the upper/middle of prices for this model (it's very hard to break the £5k barrier for a 4 cyl car unless exceptional or with special history) so you'd expect a very sound car in good mechanical order with no serious faults. Almost any car you'll find fault with trim, paint and the like.

Good luck.
 
The car will be what the car will be and it certainly looks worthwhile pursing...but, for starters, I'm giving the advert a rosette for what must be the longest sentence I've ever seen on Car & Classic.

And (probably) most other sites as well.

Good luck!

Stan
 
Being a little pedantic, there is nothing on the car that says 1971. The badges and choke/pet res knobs are '72 on, seats are '73 on, gear lever is '74 on and I'm pretty sure the switch panel is a late one too. Also, the wood looks like series 1 colour.
None of this matters of course if the car is nice and sound. It looks ok in the pics.
 
KiwiRover said:
Also, the wood looks like series 1 colour.
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I'd say it looks more like the light wood colour found on the later cars. If it is a 1970/71 car it's had nearly 45 years for things to have been changed around.
 
The way the "sound system" has been slapped into the fascia would have me checking very carefully for other examples of the same approach to maintenance.
It might be similar to his feeling for punctuation!
John
 
I think this car isn't what it says it is - it looks remarkably like a 2200SC reg number SAA218P, here are some photos (hopefully they work)...

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Suggesting this might be a road tax fraud? Not exactly unknown in the 70s classic market.

The wheel obviously is a candidate for easy swapping but would anyone really change the clock and mirror unless they really needed too? I'm not sure the wear pattern on the seat bolsters is the same either.
 
Thanks all for your replies, I have not been to see the car yet, but did briefly speak to the seller and he did mention the engine had been replaced with a 2.2 unit.

I had noticed the pattern on the dashboard and even the tax disc holder appears to be similar. The windscreen wipers on both cars are not original items.

I have also done a DVLA car check on the later car and it is currently without MOT or Tax.

I was planning on looking at this car later on in the month if it was still available. Do I go and have a look and check the Chassis number against the log book or should I walk away?

Chris
 
Ask for the chassis number and ask Rüdiger Wicke on this forum. He keeps records of chassis numbers and will know to within a short window when this was built (he might even know who had it before, I dunno if he'll contact them or whether he keeps this (understandably) confidential).

Obviously this doesn't stop them ringing this with a dead P6 but you should be able to check if you see it if it matches what's on the baseunit or if it looks like it has been tampered with.

If there's anything you are not happy with just walk away. £2600 will buy you a sound SC and these are among the more common.

If it is legit the later engine is better anyway. I don't know if VED fraud has a get out for "I bought it in good faith officer".
 
I need to check this when I get home, but I believe DLN349J was a Mexico Brown 2000SC with Toledo Red interior, and it was owned by my brother for a time in the mid-naughties. It had a nice history including copies of old V5's etc.

I'll get the photos out tomorrow. I know that car had changed hands many times since, and wasn't in great condition when my brother had it.

I'm going to have to report this one, it's blatant.
 
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Thankyou for telling me where I'd put the photos Adam

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Major league ringing going on here..........this is the original DLN in 2006 when I sold it on behalf of my brother.
 
Well it's definitely illegal.... And also probably irrelevant very soon anyway given its now a rolling 40 year tax exemption and that's based on the build date not the reg date.

Unless there are other reasons. Like it was stolen.
 
We do not know that it is "definitely illegal" at all . It is, at the moment, one of those unsolved mysteries. One of the possibilities is that it is the car owned by Nick's brother, which has been resprayed and has had a replacement roof panel . Far too many assumptions have been made about this up to now , and if the car is genuine, and the vendor gets wind of the comments made on this site, threats of a libel writ are in prospect . Suspicion is one thing, proof is another, and for anyone who is in any doubt, can I remind them that the burden of proof if justification, i.e. truth , is the defence , lies with the person publishing the libel and not with the person libelled
 
christopher storey said:
We do not know that it is "definitely illegal" at all . It is, at the moment, one of those unsolved mysteries. One of the possibilities is that it is the car owned by Nick's brother, which has been resprayed and has had a replacement roof panel . Far too many assumptions have been made about this up to now , and if the car is genuine, and the vendor gets wind of the comments made on this site, threats of a libel writ are in prospect . Suspicion is one thing, proof is another, and for anyone who is in any doubt, can I remind them that the burden of proof if justification, i.e. truth , is the defence , lies with the person publishing the libel and not with the person libelled
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I have reported this one to DVLA and have advised them I will be quite happy to answer any questions from them to help identify the car.

Sadly this one is so blatant on numerous fronts (even the pictured paperwork) I don't feel there's any option.
 
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