Very nice Triumph 2500S - should I trade my P6?

Wot a luvly motor guvnor, would make and excellent choice of stable mate to your Rover 'ow ever er indoors is likely to throw a wobbly and swapping a p6b for a 2500S is a retrograde step, more of an AND rather than an OR, but with the missus it might become an Exclusive OR.

Graeme
 
I have to agree. By all means trade in your 75 and park the P6 and Trumpy side by side but the Rover is a far superior car in every way. Faster, smoother, quieter, better built, better looking, more comfortable...
That is a nice example but it's very strong money for one of those, there are lots of decent 2500TCs on TM for not much more than half that.
 
Surely neither of you for even a second thought I was serious? With the sheer hard work devoted to Brown Rover over the last few years I'd hardly give up on it now! All the same, that is a very nice example of the once ubiquitous Trumpet. It almost looks worth that stiff asking price. Perhaps I could trade in the Nissan Micra for it? When it comes to her car, the other half is generally only concerned about its colour. It must be yellow.
 
Tried the link but just got a "site work underway" message. Knew you were probably having a larf anyway;-).
 
I've often wondered how the big Triumph saloons stack up against the P6, but can't see why anyone would choose a Mk2 and forego the wonderful space-age dash of the Mk1.
 
Willy Eckerslyke said:
I've often wondered how the big Triumph saloons stack up against the P6,
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I'd say the Rover was far better, but I'd hazard a guess that you'd get exactly the opposite answer on the Triumph forums, but what do they know....

All I can say was that when I was at the Main Stealer, which was Rover Triumph, being in the trade all the blokes there had the means and opportunity to own cars far above their station in life, and as far as I can remember, all of them had Rovers, I can't remember a single one owning a Triumph.
 
The late 60s/early 70s motoring press always seem to have preferred Triumphs over Rovers either 2000 v 2000 or 2500/2.5PI v 3500. I suspect the former due to the 6 cylinder engine/overdrive and PAS for the Mk2 Triumphs although the bigger-engined battle might have been more to do with price? The Triumphs were a little bit cheaper due to lower build-quality I presume.
I've had both in my time but do always come back to Rover although I have a mate who thinks the opposite. Each to his own I guess.
What about a Rover 2000 but with a Triumph 2000 engine and overdrive? - always wondered if anyone has ever done that ........ ? ! ?
 
smudger said:
What about a Rover 2000 but with a Triumph 2000 engine and overdrive? - always wondered if anyone has ever done that ........ ? ! ?
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The Triumph 6-cyl is a very, very heavy lump, it would play havoc with the P6's handling. I have one in my Triumph Vitesse and love it to bits as it's noisy, responsive and loads of fun, but really wonder how that character works in a bigger saloon (hence my question).
I'd also love to experience the 2.6 OHC version in the SD1, but nobody seems to have anything good to say about that!
 
We've had both. The Triumph 6 cyl engine perhaps marginally over the 4 cyl Rover, but otherwise no contest! A P6 is a far better car & has the quality seen only in a much heftier price bracket. :D
 
I've had both a Vitesse Mk2 and a Triumph 2000 Mk1 and the engine really is the only similarity.
The Vitesse is great fun but is after all a souped-up Herald and has nothing like the overall refinement of the executive 2000 saloon. The big car is much quieter and personally I would say a good one is every bit the equal of the Rover 2000 as a classic choice. I loved my Vitesse but in the end part ex'd it for a P6 3500!
The Triumph engine is much more flexible than the Rover 2000's and will pull smoothly from lower in the rev range. The Triumph also comes with twin carbs as standard, real wood, and if you want an estate car, well...........
But the Rover does feel more solid in terms of fixtures, fittings and overall quality and the V8 engine surely trumps the lot. As for the styling, that can only ever be down to personal choice. Its now a 50 year old argument that will probably go on for another 50!!
 
Willy Eckerslyke said:
I've often wondered how the big Triumph saloons stack up against the P6, but can't see why anyone would choose a Mk2 and forego the wonderful space-age dash of the Mk1.
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I always thought that the Mk1 was a nicer looking car inside and out.
 
Matter of taste, I guess. When I was a wee boy, my grandfather had a succession of brand new Mk2s, and perhaps my preferences are coloured by that, but I've always found the Mk1 a bit too "60s". I think the Mk2 was a very well executed update.
 
I do seem to recall seeing far more Triumph 2000/2500s (MK2s) and the smaller Dolomites around my town in 70s than Rover P6s. By the 80s they all seemed to vanish and everyone was driving a Ford, Vauxhall or Japanese car.

Certainly it would have been nice if the P6 had overdrive as an option like the Triumphs and I often wonder why Rover didn't do this? In the 60s motorways were coming of age in Britain and I'm sure even as far back as 1963 many P6 drivers must have been cruising along one of the new motorways at 70mph wishing their car 5th gear or overdrive?
 
It is this very problem that has underpinned the present conversion of my 3500 to the ZF. It has always seemed so undergeared.
 
WarrenL said:
Looks like a very nice example. I'm almost tempted...
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IMHO, I think the 2500S was a last attempt by Triumph in trying to sell their 'top of the range' saloons and estates to take some custom away from Rover, Ford etc. Unfortunately, with only 105bhp, it was never really going to cut the mustard alongside those Rover V8s, Essex V6s, and BMW 6-pots, no matter how much they blinged it up with those "S" badges, alloys and bri-nylon upolstery etc.

In many ways I thought the 2500S a superb car; a quality feel to the interior, great handling with the later 'revised' suspension set-up(ask an ex-traffic policeman from the 70s), and very refined also - especially with manual overdrive gearbox fitted.

The Triumph 2000/2500 "Project Innsbruck" range, like the Rover P6, has its own appeal and qualitys that just can't be replicated, no matter what. I actually like both the Triumph's and Rover's, so why not have both? - My Rover is in SD1 form, sorry guys :)
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