Ideal engine swap...

EccentricRichard wrote,...
The Rover V8 came not just in 3.5, 3.9, 4.0 which is 3.9 and 4.6, but TVR built a genuine 4.0, a 4.5 and a 5.0 (later used by Bowler and Qt in the Wildcat), and RPI will also do a 5.2 or even a 5.5. Bloody expensive, mind, which is why it's so common in the US to replace Rover V8s in MGBs with Chevy small-blocks.
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I was not including Rover V8s built by others, only those engines built within the factory by Land Rover and to the original specifications... :wink:

Ron.
 
M16 nasp being sized up beside my p6 :wink:

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With o-series ancilliaries, sherpa gearbox and a something little extra 8) being mocked up:

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That motor does fly in the rover 600... The p6 is a couple of hundred kilos lighter so would definitely be interesting - does suffer from a little lag off the line though....

Rich.
 
Simon, is that a genuine "tickford" M16 turbo lump, or are you putting it together from a nasp block and T16 turbo bits ? I do have a T16 turbo block kicking around somewhere, I've also got a M16 block, a full M16 engine and 2 spare complete T16's (all nasp), you never know when you might need one :LOL:
 
webmaster said:
Simon, is that a genuine "tickford" M16 turbo lump, or are you putting it together from a nasp block and T16 turbo bits ? I do have a T16 turbo block kicking around somewhere, I've also got a M16 block, a full M16 engine and 2 spare complete T16's (all nasp), you never know when you might need one :LOL:
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It's a scrapyard spec n/a M16 out of a 220gti, so essentially has the T16 n/a internals :( . Currently it is all stock, only requiring a light hone and new rings. All the bits almost dropped on my doorstep cheap so I thought it rude not to acquire them while I had the chance. I even have a discovery inlet manifold and perfect turbo off a 220 turbo :D . Depending on what falls my way, I will either build it up as a standard high compression bottom end running low boost, or if I could source a set of genuine rover 800 M16 rods and pistons, turbo or n/a, I would fit them :twisted: . The possible plans include full megasquirt fuel injection and ignition, using the sherpa flywheel which just happened to have a crank sensor and adaptable reluctor ring set into it.

I am trying to avoid spending big money on it as I don't know whether I want to run it permanantly or use it as a stepping stone to bigger engines. Either way, being a rover engine it could be dropped into any number of vehicles so nothing is set in stone yet. What I do know is that the oil filter will foul the engine crossmember on a standard rover p6, but I think I've got that sorted on my shell :wink: . The particular sherpa installation that I acquired has the starter and alternator in roughly the same place as the 2000tc engine so should avoid having to re-wire the engine bay if it does go ahead.

If I fit it and like it, then maybe the muscle car project will have to split into two seperate projects?
 
Hmm, sounds really interesting, plenty of tuning potential once you've got it working properly, probably cheaper and easier to get big power than the V8, just won't sound as nice.

All these M16/T16 P6 conversions, I'm going to have to find a different engine now ! I'm still tempted with the Saab 2.3 turbo.
 
What I have also recently spotted is a volvo t5 turbo being fitted to a volvo 340 with a corvette transaxle :wink:
 
I think GM increased the capacity but it's still a modified H block though which is descended from the Triumph slant 4 many moons ago.
 
Hi, yes the 'Triumph slant 4' is half the Stag V8. But Saab put their own head
on it and made it work, through turbo-charging and 16 valve heads and
capacity increase. an absolutely splendid engine.
 
colnerov said:
Hi, yes the 'Triumph slant 4' is half the Stag V8. But Saab put their own head
on it and made it work, through turbo-charging and 16 valve heads and
capacity increase. an absolutely splendid engine.
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The Dolly Sprint pioneered the 16V head, actually.
 
Hi, actually Peugeot pioneered the 16 valve engine in 1912.

To uprate the Sprint bottom end it is recomended to use Saab components.
 
The later 2.3 H series saab engine can in theory be traced back through the B series to the triumph slant 4, but it has been completely redesigned a couple of times in between, for starters it's no longer slanted, it's certainly not "just a triumph engine", if that matters anyway.
 
webmaster said:
The later 2.3 H series saab engine can in theory be traced back through the B series to the triumph slant 4, but it has been completely redesigned a couple of times in between, for starters it's no longer slanted, it's certainly not "just a triumph engine", if that matters anyway.
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I think the last Saab to carry it slanted and longitudinal was the last 900/first 9-3. Speak to Saab tuners, though, I'm sure they could advise you should you wish to undertake such a project...
 
I believe the Saab 2.3 turbo engines can be easily mated to a Vauxhaull Omega gearbox to get RWD. Practical Performance Car magazine were putting one in a Mk2 Escort using this method.
 
Tom W said:
I believe the Saab 2.3 turbo engines can be easily mated to a Vauxhaull Omega gearbox to get RWD. Practical Performance Car magazine were putting one in a Mk2 Escort using this method.
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Where do you think I got the idea :wink:
 
Tom W said:
I believe the Saab 2.3 turbo engines can be easily mated to a Vauxhaull Omega gearbox to get RWD. Practical Performance Car magazine were putting one in a Mk2 Escort using this method.
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Could the Omega box and bellhousing therefore be fitted to the Triumph motor?
 
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